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[Dis86]

Dis that sounds like there was something not being mentioned by your friend, as to go to jail for such an offence would require it to be dangerous driving or similar, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there was much more to it than the guy just being 6mph over the limit at the time of the accident (it's rare for anyone to go to jail for a simple accident that results in a death, usually there will be other factors such as drinking, drugs, unsafe vehicle, being banned at the time of the accident).

Don't get me wrong, he wasn't my friend.
I think the reason for it is in the last few months before the crash there were several people run over and killed on the same stretch of road. It was originally a 60mph limit dropping to 30. They then lowered it to 40 into 30 as a result of an elderly man and young boy dying. Basically the judge made an example of him saying he hadn't learned his lesson from the previous, well publicised, deaths on the road.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/speed-limit-cut-tragedy-road-1505180

Article sums up some of the previous accidents.

 

[FoxEye]

So if 33 months in jail is what you get for supposedly decreasing their income by 23 million, would you go to jail for 33 months if someone offered you 23 million pounds?

Thanks to the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002, if you were given 23 million to commit an act which lead to your imprisonment, the government would confiscate it all anyhow.

 

[Aeleys]

It's probably legally beneficial to break into someone's house and steal their film collection, as downloading iis obviously a much more heinous crime.

LOL.

Funny because it's true

 

[Raymond Lin]

Yes thats true but it also highlights the point why would such a crime carry a 33 month sentence where violent crimes, arguably of much greater impact on the victim, carry lesser sentences. I would argue that we should be comparing the sentence and questioning out legal system.

There is no "but", it's that's true and full stop. Because you are comparing it to other crimes again, after agreeing with what I've said.

The maximum sentence for theft is 7 years I believe so he got off lightly on the grand scheme of things. If that's what he has been charged with.

 

[McPhee]

There is no "but", it's that's true and full stop. Because you are comparing it to other crimes again, after agreeing with what I've said.

The maximum sentence for theft is 7 years I believe so he got off lightly on the grand scheme of things. If that's what he has been charged with.

Someone has to write the sentencing guidelines, so yes, there is a 'but'. Someone, somewhere in this country is responsible for ensuring that sentencing is fair and proportionate to the crime. It may not be the Judge, but that doesn't mean the sentence wasn't unfair or disproportionate.

The guy was clearly an idiot though. Can't say I feel particularly bad for him.

 

[estebanrey]

They were talking about it on BBC Breakfast and I couldn't believe how biased the Beeb presenters were. Naga Munchetty mentioned the "20 million pounds list in revenue figures as if it's a fact and didn't even introduce the question of how many of those downloaders wouldn't have watched it if they couldn't get it for free. The idea that every download is one lost sale is just silly. For example, I've never been a huge movie buff so before the internet I was happy to wait the couple of years until it came on TV.

She also said something like "Downloading pirate material is like thef..well no, it IS theft". That is legally wrong and I would argue metaphorically wrong too.

 

[arknor]

best cams always come from russia, over there you probably just give the projector guy a cam corder and 10$

 

[Rofflay]

It should have been a civil matter just like the TV fee and drug consumption. But obviously the Hollywood money influences our laws sadly. Jail is for people who hurt people and are a danger to society. Hence why we lock them up to seperate them from us.


So why was Jail used on this guy or the people who refuse to pay fines? Oh yes because that is how the big bad Goverment punish you. By locking you up with hardcore crims and depriving you of freedom. Pretty sick if you ask me to punish someone like that. This is the same people who talk about Human rights and all like massive hypocrites.

 

[stopper]

You can do much worse crimes, such as violence against people actual theft and burglary and not even get any jail time.

Makes me sick quite frankly!

That's because statue laws (legal/illegal) are dealt with differently to common laws (lawful/unlawful).
And yeah, the legal system is a piece of ****, but that is because it was built to create profit for the establishment. Statutes/Acts are not real laws, they are just given the force of law, and usually unlawfully, since they are profit driven they usually carry the maximum sentence.

Where a common law has been broken (like hurting another human), they are usually dealt with in accordance of old case laws, and there is only so much punishment they are allowed to give out depending on the nature of the crime.

 

[SlyReaper]

I think the important point here is that he was selling copies of it. Which is a tad different to sharing it with your mate.

Selling copies? What species of dullwit did he manage to dig up that would be willing to pay for it?

 

[adam98150]

The sentence isn't what bothers me, he knew what he was doing was illegal and accepted the risks.

What botheres me is the monetary value they attached to it.



This is just plain wrong. Are they assuming everyone that downloaded it would have paid for it? Are they assuming everyone that downloaded it won't buy it in the future?

One guy sharing the file 700,000 times just shows how out of touch distributors are with how people want to consume media these days. I know what he did was wrong, but this is not the way to combat it.

Haha, funny I was thinking the exact same thing when I read the article. Surely people that were willing to watch a crappy copy would never have paid in the first place?

Selling copies? What species of dullwit did he manage to dig up that would be willing to pay for it?

I imagine he was selling copies at car boots. As a child they always had pirated material there.