How rude, im entitled to an opinion without abuse thank you very much, and my reference to "jap" was as a whole, not down to every last individual, if the populace on the 'whole' had any respect for animals they would be complaining; but their more worried about their fin soup, so if you cant find a decent arguement to counter my statement i suggest you refrain from comment!
Japanese Whalers and The Sea Shepherd
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How rude, im entitled to an opinion without abuse thank you very much, and my reference to "jap" was as a whole, not down to every last individual, if the populace on the 'whole' had any respect for animals they would be complaining; but their more worried about their fin soup, so if you cant find a decent arguement to counter my statement i suggest you refrain from comment!
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Much like ethnic slurs and ridiculous generalisations.
Please see my previous post. not getting into an arguement over race as it is not the point of this thread. Nor will i be brought down to your level!
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Where lies the problem. The stocks simply aren't large enough and many whales species face extinction because of this.
Bunch of hippes that have done very little to change anything for the better.
Dont think they have as much support as they like to believe either.
Altho I hate what is happining, this is there culture, they did it LONG before GP showed up in some half rusted trailer.
Wonder how much Diesel they pump out when ramming other boats?.
Dont think they have as much support as they like to believe either.
Altho I hate what is happining, this is there culture, they did it LONG before GP showed up in some half rusted trailer.
Wonder how much Diesel they pump out when ramming other boats?.
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Your previous post is no excuse for your former 'remark'. In fact if anything it only serves to dig your hole deeper. You are generalising and quite frankly being racist.
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So you are saying if something is being done against the law, you will break the law to stop them?
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Someone who clearly doesnt know any Japanese people said:
The abbreviation is irritating, but it's the gross generalisation that is offensive.
Whatever, I could bang on about you being intolerant of others opionions, but like i said, SORRY if my post was taken as offensive, it is Not meant to be, If you cant see beyond that , and feel the need to insult me personnaly then you are in the wrong, Not me.
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Just want to make a few points:
1) The Sea Shepherds and Greenpeace are two completely different organisations with diametrically opposing views on how to get the job done.
2) GP and TSS have actually done a lot to reduce the amount of whaling and killing of other marine mammals around the world.
3) GP and TSS are awayre of the irony involved in using polluting diesel ships to hunt the whaling fleets, but what else are you going to do?
4) Some of the Sea Shepherds actions, particularly when ramming whaling ships, are morally questionable but I don't think that any of the actions they take are illegal (other then the boarding events of the last few days and that's probably on the line since they boarded the vessel to tell the Japanese that they were whaling illegally).
1) The Sea Shepherds and Greenpeace are two completely different organisations with diametrically opposing views on how to get the job done.
2) GP and TSS have actually done a lot to reduce the amount of whaling and killing of other marine mammals around the world.
3) GP and TSS are awayre of the irony involved in using polluting diesel ships to hunt the whaling fleets, but what else are you going to do?
4) Some of the Sea Shepherds actions, particularly when ramming whaling ships, are morally questionable but I don't think that any of the actions they take are illegal (other then the boarding events of the last few days and that's probably on the line since they boarded the vessel to tell the Japanese that they were whaling illegally).
So if they end up coming off worse when they ram a boat and sink...does anyone have to save them or can we just reduce the stupidity gene by letting them drown?.
Im willing to bet if these muppets got themselves killed they would blame the bloody Whales before they blame themselves!.
Im willing to bet if these muppets got themselves killed they would blame the bloody Whales before they blame themselves!.
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I think you've left your rant lock on.
Yes they are, even the rest of the countrys know there is no reason not to allow whaling on a small scale. There numbers have greatly increased to a stable number. We can't fish them like we used to. But the numbers are there to do small scale catching. Just none of the countrys want to do it due to the political fall out.
Don't give me that clap trap unless you want to see fishing banned. It's just as "disgusting". All creatures feel pain. It's the most basic of the survival instincts. And the ability to learn that pain goes with it. Without it a species would not survive.
Again the whale number are know high enough to do limited whaling.
of course it's illegal, ramming other ships is not safe. They are terrorists. You have to admit that if you support them or not. they are trying to change poltical views through terrorizing ergo they are terrorists. They can't not be described as anything else.[DOD]Asprilla;10901942 said:
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The ramming of the other ship, according to the documentary I watched the other day was not illegal, hence they could not be presecuted.
Members have been successfully proscuted before, most notably for scuttling two Icelandic whaling vessels in 1986. Yeah, they are terrorists. The do some bad and they also do some good.
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Thats absolutely stupid.Although I suppose it's due to international waters.
TI disagree. these partys do very little real help. they usually just shift the problem. Or bring in laws that are actually worse. Like backing bio-fuels which are far far worse for the environment than oil. But sprout it out as green. When in fact it releases about 10x as much co2.
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That's a bit of a generalisation; in the case of whaling they may not do a lot to help, but they certainly help a lot of poorer countries like Ecuador and Costa Rica protect their endangered species from poaching.
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Not to mention the forests being felled in order to cultivate it.
It's despicable greeno-facism at it's most obvious.
They should build a navy otherwise it should become international waters.[DOD]Asprilla;10904918 said:
It might be a generalisation. But then i think these partys do more harm than good on average. As everything they do is based on emotion and not fact or reason.
Sauce?
I personally think there is a difference between standard fishing where a fish is caught and quickly suffocates and firing a harpoon into a whale and dragging it towards you to land it, in a process that takes quite a long time.
They aren't doing it for political change they are trying to enforce a federal ban in Australian waters.