jeremy clarkson v the mail and mirror

The BBC must be in torment, on one hand the BBC is seen by some as the a fortress of political correctness and there are surly people inside the BBC have acking for an opportunity like this to get rid of Clarkson. On the other hand Clarkson/Top Gear brings in huge revenues from overseas broadcasts which given the financial restraints the BBC is under at the moment begs so I can't seem them wanting to risk losing that income.

Personally I would never use the n word and I can't believe JC with all of his years of experience in front of camera and microphones would even think to say it while filming. I don't think he should lambasted to hard for this he obviously knew it would cause controversy if he came out and said clearly hence why he mumbled that part of rhyme.
 
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BBC would be stupid to get rid of Clarkson, this is PC gone mad anyways, its a children s nursery rhyme!

yes too be honest it is a nursey rhyme everyone knows it :confused:

also releasing it 7 yrs on, talk about saving ammunition.


so many idiots ruining stuff over trivial matters. he didnt mean to infuriate or cause riot .
 
Don't agree with that. I served time in the R.A.F. and I attended a course where we discussed things like sexism, racism and general bigotry. We were told that when we speak to someone, it's not how it's given that is important but how it is received. In other words, you could say the same sexist remark to two women. One might laugh it off, so no harm done. The other could take offence which means you're now in trouble if they report you.

So you've basically got it back to front. It is the tellers problem.

Actually, there is a relevant news article from today to exemplify this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-27255852
Three policemen have been sacked by Hampshire Constabulary for "deeply offensive" sexism and homophobia.

IPCC Commissioner Jennifer Izekor said: "The language and behaviour of these officers displayed deeply offensive homophobic and sexist attitudes towards others.

"Their casual and repeated use of demeaning language demonstrated a complete lack of respect for their colleagues and the force can only be stronger without them."

On one side we have clarkson, a television entertainer known for lad humour and risky jokes, and on the the other three serving police officers. One is an appropriate setting for humour, one isn't.
 
Give me an N, give me an I, give me a G and another G, give me an E and finally an R.
What do you have, GINGER!
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Don't agree with that. I served time in the R.A.F. and I attended a course where we discussed things like sexism, racism and general bigotry. We were told that when we speak to someone, it's not how it's given that is important but how it is received. In other words, you could say the same sexist remark to two women. One might laugh it off, so no harm done. The other could take offence which means you're now in trouble if they report you.

So you've basically got it back to front. It is the tellers problem.

The problem with that is, it's a very slippery slope to go down.

How do you know that something you say completely innocently and without any sort of malicious intent, isn't going to inadvertently offend someone?

I could claim to be offended by one of my colleagues talking about bananas - by your logic, that would be the colleagues fault for being offensive! :confused:
 
***** and Redneck are most certainly slurs.

Try telling a redneck that and he would prob beat you up it lol.


How do you know that something you say completely innocently and without any sort of malicious intent, isn't going to inadvertently offend someone?

This just makes me thing of that scene in "me myself and Irene" where he asked the [black] limo driver "do you people take cheques?" :P
 
I don't mind Clarkson (I don't really like him, but I'll put up with him). I'm not that into Top Gear, but have watched and do now and again.

I thought the "slope" joke was in really poor taste and not only am I surprised that the BBC broadcast it, but I'm surprised he wasn't disciplined for it.

The eeny meeny miney mo thing is a bit of nonsense really. He says he didn't say the word in question and regrets what he did say sounding like he did.

However, coupled with the slope thing...
 
The problem with that is, it's a very slippery slope to go down.

How do you know that something you say completely innocently and without any sort of malicious intent, isn't going to inadvertently offend someone?

I could claim to be offended by one of my colleagues talking about bananas - by your logic, that would be the colleagues fault for being offensive! :confused:

No, it's not a slippery slope. And that's a classic straw man argument. No-ones talking about bananas. It's about people using language and having attitudes that others (quite rightly, not wrongly) find offensive. Ignorance of why others might find offence is not an excuse.
 
I could claim to be offended by one of my colleagues talking about bananas - by your logic, that would be the colleagues fault for being offensive! :confused:

If you did that in the R.A.F. then the supervising officer would charge you for being an imbecile and put you on jankers . You'd also be a complete laughing stock on camp. Nice example.

I've worked in the military and in civilian jobs and to be honest I prefer the military. Lots of common sense and no tolerance for BS.
 
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No, it's not a slippery slope. And that's a classic straw man argument. No-ones talking about bananas. It's about people using language and having attitudes that others (quite rightly, not wrongly) find offensive. Ignorance of why others might find offence is not an excuse.

Indeed.
 
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