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Azagoth said:
Now, if it were possible, wouldn't you just travel back and make a £1000 deposit into a high interest bank account and then bugger off 'back' to your own time and invest in a Time Machine GT-R?
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Why would you need to?

After all, in your time you would already have a high interest bank account with several years interest on the initial £1k to dip into so you could buy your Time Machine GT-R

That's the problem. If you went back in time to change something, in your time it would have always been that way. You would not know any different, so how could you change it? "It" doesn't exist to change.

Consider it like this. If you went back in time to alter the genetics of your ancestors so that you would be born with wings... You would have always had wings, so why would you consider the need to go back in time in the first place?? You have wings. You were born with them. It's the way it is.

If you decided to go back in time to give yourself wings, then you MUST be doomed to failure, other wise, as I said, you would have them already.
 
volospian said:
Why would you need to?

After all, in your time you would already have a high interest bank account with several years interest on the initial £1k to dip into so you could buy your Time Machine GT-R

That's the problem. If you went back in time to change something, in your time it would have always been that way. You would not know any different, so how could you change it? "It" doesn't exist to change.

Consider it like this. If you went back in time to alter the genetics of your ancestors so that you would be born with wings... You would have always had wings, so why would you consider the need to go back in time in the first place?? You have wings. You were born with them. It's the way it is.

If you decided to go back in time to give yourself wings, then you MUST be doomed to failure, other wise, as I said, you would have them already.
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Could be that the two times split from the point you went back and changed things. There are lots of different theories on how it could work.
 
JodieG said:
Could be that the two times split from the point you went back and changed things. There are lots of different theories on how it could work.
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Potentially, but, assuming you mean the old trousers of time theory, the problem lies with who gets the original perception?

If I went back in time to change something and I changed it and it created a new "leg" of the trousers of time... who gets the thoughts that existed before hand?

Would there be two realities, one where I am forever failing to discern the changes, and another where I am blisfully unaware of the outcomes of my struggles?

I go back in time to kill Hitler. I shoot him. I return to today to find no difference, but somewhere in a parralell universe I exist in a world where Hitler was a nobody remembered only as an unsolved crime statistic in a Bavarian backstreet and the Third Reich never happened.

So, the question still stands... who gets the memories? Do I live in a world where I feel that nothing has happened? What about my other self? Have I grown up in a world where there was no WW2, no Hitler, no holocaust.... but still have the memories? The imagination to speculate on a fantasy world where a deranged psycopath is raised to the position of the master of a war torn Europe?

In either case there can be said to be no impact upon yourself. You cannot change "your" world, only the worlds of those "you's" that you are not aware of. Maybe that's what dreams are? the sharing of thoughts and emotions of all the countless you's throughout the many dimensions.

Whatever, my point still stands, you would not know about any potential changes in another universe, only your present focal existance. So, why change something that hasn't happened, or doesn't exist? Why would I in my parralell hitler free universe feel the need to go back in time and kill him? After all, in that world he never existed?
 
I'll post later, very interesting post Volospian :) Just about to pop out and will be in and out dropping my daughter to activities and trying to cook dinner inbetween! I wish I could time travel hehe.
 
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