Joining University at the age of 23

Also do not do a games dev course. This is the course i chose and they suck badly (unless you manage to get into Abertay? (sp?)) If you want to go onto a games dev career choose a comp sci course instead it will give you a much better skill base.

Abertay offers one of the longest running and most respected games courses but there are another couple of universities that offer decent games programming courses I believe. I'd agree that a straight computer science course is probably better in most instances but I wouldn't rule out computer games completely but it does depend on where it is and what the course comprises.

Not when your 24, although this may be tainted by my experience in Scotland because half the freshers are actually 17 :(.

"Hey mister, gonnie get us some WKD" - does that bring back any memories? :p
 
Also do not do a games dev course. This is the course i chose and they suck badly (unless you manage to get into Abertay? (sp?)) If you want to go onto a games dev career choose a comp sci course instead it will give you a much better skill base.

Curious, but where did you go if I may ask? For some reason I'm thinking Teeside or De Monfort. I know at least De Monfort's course is pretty bad.

And yes Abertay is pretty good from my experience meeting them. Also Derby "was" good... whether it remains the same now is to be seen as the two main guys who ran the course have recently left in the past few weeks. I'm about to go into a "fun" 4th year >.>. Also I am aware as a whole Derby is pretty bad as University :P, just that it's two Games courses were VERY good and always reported so in news articles as being the odd ones out.
 
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"Hey mister, gonnie get us some WKD" - does that bring back any memories? :p

Haha, it was so bad because at the student union they would ID everyone pretty much regardless of what age you looked.

I remember reading an article (The Guardian as I recall) which summed it up pretty well, spent the first year making new friends and the next three years trying to ditch a good proportion of them.
 
all the mature student i know had to pay fees...

yeah wtf poster above said mature students don't pays fees LOL they do I'm paying £3375 a year, from next year you might as well bend over

Sorry, my mistake. Mature student do indeed have to pay fees! :o I should have said that as an independent student you may be eligible for non repayable bursary which will cover some or all of the costs of the tuition fees (this is what I got at uni and my LEA paid my tuition fees).
 
I'm 22 and in my class there is some ok people, I think most are like 18-20 and some seem to act a little immature sometimes.
 
I started uni for the second time at 20 and it made very little difference, however I am not sure how it would be starting now (23).

In terms of the actual course etc it will make no difference, if you plan to stay in halls and join the whole "just left school" atmosphere you may find it slightly odd. On the other hand you will probably never get a better opportunity to pull 18 year old girls.
 
I don't say this very often, but I think going to uni would not be the right thing for you.

The main thing to consider is cost vs reward. I think if you do games programming you'll not be successful - and you'll probably not get in with your qualifications. I think if you're going to be a student you should be looking at a business course, resulting in some kind of middle-management job.

My point is, with costs included, I don't think that'll pay better than staying in the navy and trying to work your way up or into a position you prefer.

Its hard to go from enlisted to commissioned. Only 1-5% do. Do people have this little knowledge of military ranks? Maybe this is why there is many morons saying "work your way up". It maybe possible in industry(Although statistically difficult), but defiantly not in the military.
Its hard to work yourself up to captain, from enlisted.
 
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I've made friends with 5 people this year who are all 23+ and they are sound and loved living in halls and being in uni. One of them was an assistant manager of a Clarkes store before coming to uni this year, another was working at JCB and was on 30k or something, renting his own house, had a car and left all that to do a degree in marine biology... But before that he's just done a foundation year! Has no regrets and is loving it.

Definitely do it man!
 
Its hard to go from enlisted to commissioned. Only 1-5% do. Do people have this little knowledge of military ranks? Maybe this is why there is many morons saying "work your way up". It maybe possible in industry(Although statistically difficult), but defiantly not in the military.
Its hard to work yourself up to captain, from enlisted.

Not if he has the aptitude and the leadership skills. They can be learned yes but it's the potential they want to see more than anything. It can be hard if you're not quite what they're looking for yes, but if you have the natural ability there and are the right kind of person they snap you up - let's not forget ex rankers can be a much safer bet than recruiting students straight out of uni.
 
Not if he has the aptitude and the leadership skills. They can be learned yes but it's the potential they want to see more than anything. It can be hard if you're not quite what they're looking for yes, but if you have the natural ability there and are the right kind of person they snap you up - let's not forget ex rankers can be a much safer bet than recruiting students straight out of uni.

Very few do. Even people who have the grades to go in as commissioned but don't, because of not progressing into fe don't get commissioned. Its much safer bet, going straight into commissioned.


Btw: Don't do games programming, just do cs.
 
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You're never too young to go to uni but...

don't do a "computer games programming" degree! If you really want to develop computer games do computer science/maths/physics/engineering. And if you aren't strong in maths then it will be difficult.
 
Curious, but where did you go if I may ask?


Bucks New Uni. Stupidly chose this uni as it was close and couldn't really afford to stay in halls/travel. The course was based around Torque game engine which they seemed to think was state of the art... One of the lecturers responsible for the networking labs would walk in take the register and walk out, not to be seen again until the next week. we ended up having to teach our selves via Google to pass this module. TBH i don't think any of the lecturers had any experience or contacts within the games industry. So seemingly had no clue about what was actually required.
 
Very few do. Even people who have the grades to go in as commissioned but don't go onto fe don't get commissioned. Its much safer bet, going straight into commissioned.

I'm quite aware of the numbers and I know how it works, I looked at it myself about 4 years ago prior to joining the RAF but I decided it wasn't right for me at the time. Due to my performance during training there have been numerous times where I've been advised to check out this route once again and as a result I have met and discussed it with many people who have done it. It may be unlikely statistically, but if you can see in yourself that you have the aptitude for it then why not try?
 
I'm quite aware of the numbers and I know how it works, I looked at it myself about 4 years ago prior to joining the RAF but I decided it wasn't right for me at the time. Due to my performance during training there have been numerous times where I've been advised to check out this route once again and as a result I have met and discussed it with many people who have done it. It may be unlikely statistically, but if you can see in yourself that you have the aptitude for it then why not try?

Btw I don't agree with enlisted v commissioned grouping. I believe it should all be merged into one ranking system. People are given leadership training as required, as they move up the ranks.

But at the moment people should try to work out the best strategy for their chances facing current reality.
 
Bucks New Uni. *Snip*

Ah, should have also guessed that, though completly forgot about them xD, remember seeing an advertisement for it in my sixth form common room and saw the Torque engine being used in it.
I did use that engine once out of curiosity... iTorque was ok but nothing on Unity for iOS development. Was it the Torque Engine for XNA by chance? We used Unreal 2004, later on we changed to UDK and also used Gamebryo (Oblivion and Fallout 3 engine), which was cool. And sucks about your lecturers :<. We've got a few bad lecturers here but nothing compared to yours :S.

Luckily I've been taught by an ex Codemasters employee and ex Lionhead employee who did the AI in Fable 1, annoyingly as I said earlier, they've left now. So 4th year will be interesting. I met Peter Molyneux last year and spoke to him (was a nerdgasm tbh... xD) when he came to do a talk for us. It really does depend on the content and lecturers of the course when it comes to a Games Dev type course, Programming at Derby is now heading into a fog because of them leaving, although the modelling and animation course is still ran by ex industry peeps and going strong, (I think one worked on the first Motorstorm if memory serves me right....).
 
Btw I don't agree with enlisted v commissioned grouping. I believe it should all be merged into one ranking system. People are given leadership training as required, as they move up the ranks.

:ninjaedit: But at the moment people should try to work out the best strategy for their chances facing current reality.

So you don't think there's a difference between a manager and a leader? Are you in/have you ever been in the military?

As for being realistic, of course people should be. What I'm saying is that if you have the aptitude for it then statistics like "only 1-5% do" mean nothing. First of all you'd have to know how many NC rankers actually go for selection, if it's only 1-5% then going by your statistics you're guaranteed to be successful!
 
So you don't think there's a difference between a manager and a leader? Are you in/have you ever been in the military?

Never been in the military, been in the military cadets though =P .

I know all about the leadership v manager. I've been through tons business material on that in academia. Managers do require some leadership qualities and vice versa. I just don't believe being commissioned should be decided on pure academic certificates alone, I think they should prove themselves in real situations first.
 
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