Jonathan Creek - The Grinning Man

muon · 2 Jan 2009 at 08:25

When they thoroughly checked the room, how could they have not checked if the bath was solid? Also surely a wet bath would have given a pretty big clue.

Pfft, CSI is better and has less gaping plotholes. If this was the standard of the episodes I watched years ago, I'm amazed I didn't get bored.

MeatLoaf · 2 Jan 2009 at 09:42

What was the relavence of the picture?

MooMoo444 · 2 Jan 2009 at 09:52

The old woman chose to save it from the housefire, rather than her husband (I think?)

Something like that I missed a lot of it.

orderoftheflame · 2 Jan 2009 at 10:25

MooMoo444 said:
The old woman chose to save it from the housefire, rather than her husband (I think?)

Something like that I missed a lot of it.

Not her husband, just some old geezer I thought.

I seem to remember that she was mumbling on about how the seeds of evil were already in her son before hand, due to her decission or something.

MooMoo444 · 2 Jan 2009 at 10:28

orderoftheflame said:
Not her husband, just some old geezer I thought.

I seem to remember that she was mumbling on about how the seeds of evil were already in her son before hand, due to her decission or something.

Thats what the 'I think?' was for

neil3k · 2 Jan 2009 at 10:54

Pho said:
You sure that's not because of the slight nipple slip (I think, was hard to tell) when she falls through into the tank of water?

/opens recorded MPG file and steps through frame-by-frame

You saw much more than that

The Big T · 2 Jan 2009 at 10:59

I use to love this show but last nights episode was terrible.

TheMightyTen · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:14

Very very poor episode. If that is the calibre of writing now I'm glad they are not going to bring it back. Another dissapointing special this christmas. Next year I'm just going to ban TV from this house :mad:

jackthezipper · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:15

pfft I wanted him to work out where the other door to the proper tower was and see what was up there.

electric ant · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:19

orderoftheflame said:
Not her husband, just some old geezer I thought.

I seem to remember that she was mumbling on about how the seeds of evil were already in her son before hand, due to her decission or something.

I might be wrong, but wasn't it the anti-semitic 'evil' dad of the old woman?

Welshy · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:22

I thoroughly enjoyed the episode myself, reminded me a lot of watching it every Saturday night

(or did it used to be on on a Friday?).

Phil W · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:23

It wasn't a *bad* episode, but as mentioned previously in the thread, there questions left unanswered....

- Why didn't we see the resulting action with the other 7/8 bodies found?
- What happened to the body of the murdered girl?

...sort of things i was expecting JC to show/explain to the Police!

csmager · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:30

tntcoder said:
was this defiantly just a one off? No chance of it returning for a series?

In an interview I read (can't find it now!) David Renwick has said he's not ruling it out - he was going to see what the reaction was to this - but he quite wants to retire... and Jonathan Creek is a bloody hard thing to write, as it involves coming up with impossible situations with a simple explanation.

khimbar · 2 Jan 2009 at 11:32

neil3k said:
You saw much more than that

You sure?

MarcLister · 2 Jan 2009 at 12:24

electric ant said:
I might be wrong, but wasn't it the anti-semitic 'evil' dad of the old woman?

You are wrong.

The anti-semitic guy was killed by her father in the bath. Her father died in a car crash later the same year.

She told Creek she was staying in a house and it must have been an old relative of the family.

csmager · 2 Jan 2009 at 12:54

MarcLister said:
You are wrong.

The anti-semitic guy was killed by her father in the bath. Her father died in a car crash later the same year.

She told Creek she was staying in a house and it must have been an old relative of the family.

Close, but I'm fairly sure her father was the anti-Semitic Latin lover (felix dies, and coffin enscription) who killed the Jew 'Eli Menkin'

MarcLister · 2 Jan 2009 at 12:56

If her father was anti-semitic, why did he kill the secret Nazi?

Nikumba · 2 Jan 2009 at 13:05

goldilocks said:
Awesome episode, shame it's a one off - I'd love to see another new series!

Id imagine BBC will see what the ratings were like, and if the writer, and everyone else were up for doing some episodes, I ma sure BBC would do it.

Kimbie

Shamikebab · 2 Jan 2009 at 13:06

Good episode imo, not as good as the best but better than the worst. Was a lovely surprise when 5 mins before it aired I found my beloved Jonathan Creek was returning :eek:

Hope they consider another series or some more one-offs.

Jeff Lynne · 2 Jan 2009 at 13:12

I enjoyed it but the thing that spoiled the plot was at the start the bathroom was clearly filthy and so was the bath itself. No-one, especially a girl is going to bathe in that before it was scrubbed from top to bottom.

Also, as already said the reactions to a vat of dead bodies was surprisingly meh.