Just a few shots

Ksanti · 6 Feb 2013 at 21:45

Yes you can't use shutter speeds of 2 seconds with a 200mm and expect it to work, but at the same time, the rule which applies, which we're talking about is the Minimum Shutter Speed (s) = 1/35mm equiv. focal length (mm) rule, which doesn't apply when you have IS.

D.P. · 6 Feb 2013 at 22:14

Ksanti said:
Yes you can't use shutter speeds of 2 seconds with a 200mm and expect it to work, but at the same time, the rule which applies, which we're talking about is the Minimum Shutter Speed (s) = 1/35mm equiv. focal length (mm) rule, which doesn't apply when you have IS.

The rule is that longer focal lengths and higher pixel densities require faster shutter speeds. You seem to be arguing against that fundamental relationship.

The exact shutter speeds depend on a number of factors such as if you suffer from Parkinson's disease, drank a lot of coffee, are sitting in a helicopter or have IS turned on or not.

Ksanti · 6 Feb 2013 at 22:32

Hit CTRL F. Look through the uses of the word "Rule" in this thread. You brought up the rule of thumb to begin with, and after a discussion about that rule, you've now decided that actually when you say rule you mean that larger focal lengths and pixel densities amplify camera shake, with nobody else referring to that.

D.P. · 7 Feb 2013 at 01:08

Ksanti said:
Hit CTRL F. Look through the uses of the word "Rule" in this thread. You brought up the rule of thumb to begin with, and after a discussion about that rule, you've now decided that actually when you say rule you mean that larger focal lengths and pixel densities amplify camera shake, with nobody else referring to that.

The rule of thumb states that the shutter speed should be inversely proportional to the effective focal length and take into account other factors such as pixel density and your propensity to hand shake. By definition a rule of thumb is an approximation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thumb
Rule of thumb is a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation. It is an easily learned and easily applied procedure for approximately calculating or recalling some value, or for making some determination.

Where have I said anything contrary to that :confused:

I even clearly discussed other factors such as excessive handshake or being on a moving platform. IS/VR is just one other factor to take into account.

I swear some people on this forum just try to start arguments out thin air.

mrk · 7 Feb 2013 at 08:43

The berry shots were taken around half 12, You'll get some nice warm light during dusk or even dawn so maybe try those during those times and compare the differences. You'll probably be pleasantly surprised at how much difference the light at different times of the day makes to pictures of things in general

Also at 105mm how far away were you from them? I found that my eyes were wandering around the frame as I couldn't pinpoint the main focus point unless you were going for all the berries?

The portrait as you say was a candid one so setting up the shot wouldn't have been easy although, was it the only shot you took or was it a set from a burst or different angles?

To me it sounds like what you're after is a bit more subject isolation!