Just can't do it!

overcl0cker · 20 Mar 2007 at 09:10

I just can't get my CPU to 3.2 without it failing in Orthos within 10 minutes

Anybody got any suggestions?

oc.

ns400r · 20 Mar 2007 at 09:19

Neither can I with my [email protected]. It is perfectly stable in 5 straight hours of BF2 and never crashes in anything else either. Stable enough for me!

overcl0cker · 20 Mar 2007 at 09:22

You need to Orthos it for 12 hours for it to technically be called stable! Your e6600 should do 3.2 with ease and be stable tbh, 3.4 is the area you're going to struggle at I think.

oc.

ramdor · 20 Mar 2007 at 09:32

They can be a pain sometimes eh? I am having problems with a 6600 @ 3.3gig on a p5n32-e. Memtests (boot disk version) fine at ddr500 for hours, orthos can run for hours with out a problem. However sometimes the machine will just freeze up. Never a blue screen or anything, just a solid lock up. Cant move mouse, ctrl-alt-del etc. It never happens at stock clocks/volts so something aint right. I am wondering if I should aim some fans at those pasive coolers on the mobo.

Richie.

overcl0cker · 20 Mar 2007 at 09:42

Yeh that really sounds like some kind of heating issue to me..

oc.

ns400r · 20 Mar 2007 at 11:07

overcl0cker said:
You need to Orthos it for 12 hours for it to technically be called stable! Your e6600 should do 3.2 with ease and be stable tbh, 3.4 is the area you're going to struggle at I think.

oc.

Nah. 5 hours in BF2 and not a single crash or error with anything other than Orthos is stable enough for me thanks. It is stable at 3.2 and 3.4, 3.6 and it complains.

malccy · 20 Mar 2007 at 15:44

Sounds to me not enough volts are being given to the cpu; to keep mine 12 hour stable at 3.6ghz it needs 1.53v.

spb251272 · 20 Mar 2007 at 16:01

Yeah, same here - stable at 3.6 with 1.51V and max temps of about 55c

Fr0dders · 20 Mar 2007 at 16:33

overcl0cker said:
You need to Orthos it for 12 hours for it to technically be called stable! Your e6600 should do 3.2 with ease and be stable tbh, 3.4 is the area you're going to struggle at I think.

oc.

lol

who gives a ****

its stable if it doesnt crash when i use it day to day.

If it doesnt crash when you use it. Its stable

dont have to bother faffing about with artificial stress tests or whatever.

spb251272 · 20 Mar 2007 at 16:50

MrLOL said:
lol

who gives a ****

its stable if it doesnt crash when i use it day to day.

If it doesnt crash when you use it. Its stable

dont have to bother faffing about with artificial stress tests or whatever.

But it could go **** up at any moment and corrupt your lovely data or windows install! If you are happy with not being orthos stable, that's fine, but people may take your advice and end up with lost data or needing to re-install their OS.

Don't forget that when your cpu fails in orthos, it means it's not capable of performing instructions that it should be able to. To me that's not good news! I honestly think that a 12hr orthos test is a must for cpu stability. I'd rather run a bit slower and be 12hr stable, but that's just my opinion

Fr0dders · 20 Mar 2007 at 17:02

spb251272 said:
But it could go **** up at any moment and corrupt your lovely data or windows install! If you are happy with not being orthos stable, that's fine, but people may take your advice and end up with lost data or needing to re-install their OS.

bit overly dramatic

your CPU being overclocked too far wont cause your data to magically vanish. Cold Rebooting your PC will cause you to loose data.

And that can happen if you trip over the power plug or for all sorts of other reasons. And is exactly the reason i have a full backup of everything.

andyh · 20 Mar 2007 at 17:31

I was wondering how long it would take before the "if you pc doesnt pass 12hrs orthos your data is doomed" posts started to appear.

simonnance · 20 Mar 2007 at 18:14

MrLOL said:
bit overly dramatic

your CPU being overclocked too far wont cause your data to magically vanish. Cold Rebooting your PC will cause you to loose data.

And that can happen if you trip over the power plug or for all sorts of other reasons. And is exactly the reason i have a full backup of everything.

I've had my windows install corrupted by overclocking, happened last week, so dont underestimate the risks.

Most of the data was recoverable by installing a new version an an unformatted partition, but it CAN happen.

overcl0cker · 20 Mar 2007 at 18:43

Yeh, it's totally not worth the risk. If your CPU is unable to perform the tasks that it should be able to at stock speeds then it's not safe running it doing your day to day tasks.

oc.

Delvis · 21 Mar 2007 at 09:30

Well yeah...If you overclock your cpu and you get data loss its your damn fault quite frankly!

If you overclock, you run the risk of everything going caput whenever, even if it is 'orthos' stable, or prime stable, or whatever stable.

Hardly anyone makes there cpu use every instruction possible all while at being 100%. Yes some do but your average gamer and what not wont.

Hence why i clocked my x2 down cause its pointless me having it clocked otherwise.

simonnance · 21 Mar 2007 at 10:42

True, that's the risk you take as an overclocker, and such is life to be fair.

However stable 24Hrs in Orthos is a heck of a lot less likely to cause probs than failing after a few seconds......

A bit like HDDs..... there is always a chance of faliure, however picking a good manufactuer, and keeping it cool, mitigates the risk. Sticking it in an area with no ventialtion and letting it overheat is asking for a faliure, a bit like letting your comp run an unstable OC is asking for problems.