just failed my driving test :(

Looking at that diagram I can see why he gave you a minor. Looks to me like you gave a false impression of where you were going to the taxi.
 
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Just take it on the chin and learn from it - you'll have another chance to pass soon. :) It does sound like a bit of a rubbish situation, but it's done now. Don't dwell on it or let it stress you out - it won't get you anywhere.

Good luck with getting yourself a retest and I'm sure you'll pass next time. :)
 
Possibly you came over way to quickly considering the taxi was coming onto the circle and cut him up. He either thought that you would be coming off at his entry, or that you would keep on going round, or he wasn't paying attention. At the end of the day you drive your car first, tell the examiner "I can't cut this guy up so I am going to go round the roundabout again".

Its a dodgy situation, not really created and its not entirely your fault, but at the end of the day, you did cut someone up. :)
 
A major is when your actions cause another driver to alter their driving. Got one yesterday for apparently not looking out for an invisible car while doing a reverse around a corner (and another for checking my mirrors AT THE SAME TIME as signalling four times).
Retest for me, but I was told that I have to wait ten days to take it again, is this true?
 
Breamy said:
what am i meant to do when someone cuts across behind me then?
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Looking at the picture it looks like a big roundabout, as you have drawn lanes on it etc. If you were not in the left lane when he was pulling out, he could have assumed safe to pull out as no one in that lane, and gone for it, you then pulled across infront of him.

Dude, take it on the chin, instead of whining about it, try and learn from it.
 
Breamy said:
well i was already on the roundabout and he ust pulled out of his stupid taxi lane so wasnt my fault but i didnt see him in time apparntly maybe that was because i was looking where i was going
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but not looking for other hazards it seems. If you weren't in the inside lane then he could have assumed that you weren't moving into it and pulled out into the lane.
 
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Hate said:
but not looking for other hazards it seems. If you weren't in the inside lane then he could have assumed that you weren't moving into it and pulled out into the lane.
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If an examiner used that arguement then you would always have to use the inside lane on all roundabouts just in case someone "assumed" you might not be going where you want and have the right of way to do so. Sounds very much like this was an unfair call by the tester, as has been said u cant do anything about it so just chalk it down to experiance and use the other lane next time all the way round ( when he will fail you for incorrect lane dicipline probably).

As a side point i know when i leared to drive that when you come up to a round-about anyone to your right has right of way. You are obliged to assume that they can and will come off at any point and NOT to assume you know what they are doing. If the OP drove past the taxi and the taxi decides to then pull out and try to undercut him then its clearly the taxi drivers fault.. a car in front of you on a round about has priority over you just like on a normal road. The fact that the taxi driver may have "assumed" he was leaving at another exit does not excuse what he did. If the OP had pulled across a lane with no indication then yes he would be cutting the taxi up but i very much doubt the OP wasnt indicating on his test. And besides if the taxi believes he was "cut up " then he was too close and not paying attention. :D

Ahh i love rules of the road arguements/discussions/flame wars.... soooo many rules so many views and so many viewpoints


Edit: I failed my first test on a set of temp traffic lights... had an otherwise perfect test with only 1 minor for hesitation. The lights were one of those "half the road dug up" affairs with 2 sets of lights, one at each end, which lets the traffic go past single file alternately. However the side that was used to allow the traffic past was boardered by hedges and drives to people's houses. You could not see into the drives and therefore couldnot see if anyone was coming out or not.
I was at the front of the queue and waited till the lights changed to green and set off.... halfway down the roadworks some guy pulls out of his drive ( totally unseen from the road or even from where i set off from and proceeds to turn his car TOWARDS me!.... so now we have him facing one way and me and the cars behind me facing the otherway!! then of course he wont move and starts shaking a fist at me ( eh? ) and meanwhile the lights change and some pleb, who could see whats going on, decides to come up behind him!

Everyone is looking at me like its my fault and eventually a workman sorts out the mess by making the 4 cars drive back and getting him to reverse. I get back to the test center and he fails me for "failing to anticipate the road ahead" I mean what the bobbins are you supposed to do?? sit there all day just in case someone comes out of his drive ( that you cant see )??

SO you can fail for something not your fault... the thing is to learn from the incident and move on.
 
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First rule of not failing next time: Face up to your mistakes.

You did not fail your test becuase of the ****** taxi driver.
You did not fail your test becuase of some cruel twist of fate.
You did not fail your test becuase the instructor has a quota.

You failed your test becuase you did not drive to the required standard during your test. It really is that simple, moaning about it and blaming everyone but yourself will only lead to you making similar mistakes again.

You can't just negotiate a roundabout only looking in front of you. You need to be totally aware of everything thats going on. You were not.

So you failed.

Learn from it, pass next time.
 
[TW]Fox said:
First rule of not failing next time: Face up to your mistakes.

You did not fail your test becuase of the ****** taxi driver.
You did not fail your test becuase of some cruel twist of fate.
You did not fail your test becuase the instructor has a quota.

You failed your test becuase you did not drive to the required standard during your test. It really is that simple, moaning about it and blaming everyone but yourself will only lead to you making similar mistakes again.

You can't just negotiate a roundabout only looking in front of you. You need to be totally aware of everything thats going on. You were not.

So you failed.

Learn from it, pass next time.
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Quoted For Truth.
 
There is no quota!!!
People - grow up and stop posting this.
I really don't know where half the BS starts on the Internet - does some guy sit somewhere writing and posting it out and about and for every hundred pieces that are ignored some gets taken as gospel and then spread around the net.

It's like a football match and referee - It all depends on how well you drive and how the examiner sees any incident while he is testing you.

In 99.9% of cases you fail because you were not good enough to pass.
Thankfully there is an actual grade of driving that needs to be reached before licenses are given out and they aren't simply granted when you feel that you can drive.

Do examiners make mistakes?
I'm sure they do - maybe they don't see something, maybe they were blind sighted and a mistake is made.
Is it annoying?
Ask any one who has watched the last TWO times England have played Portugal if it is annoying when mistakes are made and/or things are missed.
However you just have to get on with it and make sure you do better next time.

Oh and back to the original point of my post - there are NO quota's!!
 
stoofa said:
There is no quota!!!
People - grow up and stop posting this.
I really don't know where half the BS starts on the Internet - does some guy sit somewhere writing and posting it out and about and for every hundred pieces that are ignored some gets taken as gospel and then spread around the net.

It's like a football match and referee - It all depends on how well you drive and how the examiner sees any incident while he is testing you.

In 99.9% of cases you fail because you were not good enough to pass.
Thankfully there is an actual grade of driving that needs to be reached before licenses are given out and they aren't simply granted when you feel that you can drive.

Do examiners make mistakes?
I'm sure they do - maybe they don't see something, maybe they were blind sighted and a mistake is made.
Is it annoying?
Ask any one who has watched the last TWO times England have played Portugal if it is annoying when mistakes are made and/or things are missed.
However you just have to get on with it and make sure you do better next time.

Oh and back to the original point of my post - there are NO quota's!!
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And how do you know for a fact that there arent? If you actually read what i said i said that there certainly USED to be where i was from and that i wouldnt be suprised if there still were. Unless you think that my talking to a tester ( and ex gf's dad.. and a really nice guy ) and him telling me that there was is somehow me mistaking it for something i once read off the internet.
 
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And how do you know for a fact that there arent? If you actually read what i said i said that there certainly USED to be where i was from and that i wouldnt be suprised if there still were. Unless you think that mt talking to a tester and him telling me that there was is somehow me mistaking it for something i once read off the internet.
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Becuase it isn't true. The DSA is a public service - it is not a profit making organisation, there is no point or need for it to operate on quotas. Just think for a second how daft it would be if they actually DID fail perfectly competent drivers becuase they have 'reached a quota'.

Come on, think. I don't care if Tony Blair himself told you so, it isnt true.

Go troll elsewhere.
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Ironic.
 
AtreuS said:
And how do you know for a fact that there arent? If you actually read what i said i said that there certainly USED to be where i was from and that i wouldnt be suprised if there still were. Unless you think that my talking to a tester ( and ex gf's dad.. and a really nice guy ) and him telling me that there was is somehow me mistaking it for something i once read off the internet.
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Did either you or your (ex) GF fail your test? Maybe he was making you feel better ;)

Quota's do not exist!
 
paradigm said:
Did either you or your (ex) GF fail your test? Maybe he was making you feel better ;)

Quota's do not exist!
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Not at all... the thing i find funny is that you come on saying "quota's dont exist" and say im lying or that i hollucinated him telling me what he did. All im saying is that if they did it back then i wouldnt put it past them now. You pay a retest fee if you fail... that money gets shoves somewhere doesnt it, so makes sense that if they fail people they get more money somewhere along the line yes? in this land of Blair i wouldnt put it past them thats all.

And in the first instance i meant it to be sarcastic so ive added a nice smily face now, just so as not to upset anyone. ;)
 
AtreuS said:
Not at all... the thing i find funny is that you come on saying "quota's dont exist" and say im lying or that i hollucinated him telling me what he did. All im saying is that if they did it back then i wouldnt put it past them now. You pay a retest fee if you fail... that money gets shoves somewhere doesnt it, so makes sense that if they fail people they get more money somewhere along the line yes? in this land of Blair i wouldnt put it past them thats all.
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It's a totally daft concept, thats why.

Driving Examiners are not paid on commission, they get paid exactly the same whether they pass everyone or fail everyone, irrespective of how much the test centre 'makes'. There is therefore NIL incentive for them to fail people to get more money. They dont see any of that money, and its not as if the test centres get closed and they all get sacked if they dont generate enough profit!

Use a little common sense, and you'll see there is no reason for quotas to exist.

Quotas exist purely in the mind of the inept, who use them as a crutch becuase it's easier to face up to a mistake and learn from it. Unfortunately, this makes it a compounding problem becuase you'll never correct something if you can't admit you made a mistake.
 
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