Just got Vista, whats necessary?
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Do what I did and put XP on.
OK my laptop came with 512mb of ram so vista had to go, was only the basic version anyway
out of the gadgets I would choose:
date, ram usage, battery level
OK my laptop came with 512mb of ram so vista had to go, was only the basic version anyway
out of the gadgets I would choose:
date, ram usage, battery level
XP security is crap(it took 2 service packs to get it half decent)XP firewall is crap compared to Vista's ,memory handling is crap in XP too,do I need to go on?....FatRakoon said:
And yes I have both XP and Vista ,so I'm not biased,just speaking the truth.
I would strongly recommend any Vista user that only has 512mb to use a readyboost device with Vista,this wil help a bit.
Btw ram prices are pretty cheap now too.
My mums gateway laptop came with vista, seems quite good really. I'm impressed with its networking options and the ease in which my mother was able to pinpoint the conflict with ip address and re-assign a new one to her laptop. She struggles using powerpoint animations 
I think it was £499, with a C2D, gig of ram, 100gb hard drive etc.
Vista also has the readyboost feature.... 2 gb mempen soon becomes an extra 2gb of ram. Just slot it in and watch your laptop fly through everything you throw at it.
Was very impressed with the real-time screens in the flip3d thing, especially rendering a movie in between some other pages.
It looks pretty too.
Aside from the annoying "are you sure, your sure, you definately clicked yes to opening the folder/running this program" messages i'm really quite impressed.
I think it was £499, with a C2D, gig of ram, 100gb hard drive etc.
Vista also has the readyboost feature.... 2 gb mempen soon becomes an extra 2gb of ram. Just slot it in and watch your laptop fly through everything you throw at it.
Was very impressed with the real-time screens in the flip3d thing, especially rendering a movie in between some other pages.
It looks pretty too.
Aside from the annoying "are you sure, your sure, you definately clicked yes to opening the folder/running this program" messages i'm really quite impressed.
Elevon said:
Many places around to compare XP with Vista, Im not going to stretch this out here, but...
You are comparing XP against Vista? -everythign you just mentioned there was a ridiculous point seeing as MS have learned from their mistakes of XP and used that knowledge in Vista... Taking that alone into consideration, this should mean that any flaws the yfound in XP should no longer be present in Vista.. Well, this is turning out to be a wrogn assumption considering the massive number of users out there who have gone back to XP.... Including myself.
Firewall??? - Firewall???
XPs Firewall is never supposed to be any kind of fort knox! - Neither is Vistas and by the way Vistas firewall can be negotiated in a few seconds just like XPs can by anyone with a bit of know-how, the only different between Vistas and XP firewall, is that Vistas one is bi-directional while XPS is only one-way, but apart from that they are the same thing, which is why no one who has any real common sense uses any of them.
Service pack? - Dont lets not go there! - already they have set a date for Vistas first SP and its oh so far away isnt it??? Maybe they need that long because they have already found so many problems and they will no doubt find oh so many more.
You have both XP & Vista?, thats nice. I have both too, and 2 different Vistas and they both suck.
I can also say that on the 2 systems I put them on, I found that the Single cored opteron was many times faster than the dual core 3800 at almost everything, I found that the Dual core ran pretty much everythign while the opteron would fail in many things. I found that even when I setup both system,s to have as close to the same hardware as I could get them, I still found that they different so radically that it made me wonder how it could even be possible.
Plus, another annoyance is that every HD I have taken to the Vista PCs, has had to be wiped and reformatted. Windows itself does not seem to mind so much, but disk manager apps see the Partition tables as bad. In fact, my Raptor now keeps trashing itself even thogh there is nothing wrong with the disk itself... If I take it to the Vista PCs, its just fine, but under XP, it reads for a while and then all of a sudden, it starts going silly.
Vista for me has proven to be a pain in the bum for everything.
Oh, and a real pain in the rear end is that every time I try to use Vista Ultimate, my router seems to disconnect??? - nevber been able to fathom this one, but I have pin-pointed it to the fact that I never have any issues with my router, until I use the Vista PC... Or rather after I use the Vista PC.
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AcidHell2 said:
4od doesn't work with vista
The fact remains your comment in your first post was poor and unwarranted,the guy asked about Vista.FatRakoon said:
Vista is not perfect but niether is the 7 year old XP,and has for performance drivers are getting better all the time,I find Vista rock solid even with my 27 games installed,as to HD thrashing that is easy to fix,took me 2 mins.
If you can't get it to run or perform decent,I suggest you learn more about PCs,problem between the keyboard and chair as they say.
No problems here so far with vista, performance seems better than in xp for some games ( CoH for example ) and the only time when i have problems is with some 32 bit apps, but once you disable all the security rubbish and defenders, its much faster as xp, ok not for the 1st time, but after a few boots it renembers what u've used most and cache's that, never seen wmp start so fast for the 1st time.
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firefox with plugins - Why, iex7 is great imo
itunes or winamp - same question, wmp does the job just aswell and is easier to use
avast or other antivirus - rubbish, on xp machiene a year ago i didnt have an antivirus for 2 years, and when i installed nod32 after, 0 virusses/troyans found... Just enable your isp's email scanner, and stay away from stuff you know is bad...
firewall- Router does that
ad-aware or other anti spyware - good point
4od - whats this?
Paint .net - what?
Ventrilo- again unknown app for me
Flashget - same as above
demon tools or other - yep, a very big essential
nero or other - Yep
codec pack- wich one, i need one to work propery with wmp, klite codec pack plays all flash and .avi's regardless of codec, in black&white in wmp
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Elevon said:
Granted, I should have STFU
Elevon said:
HD Thrashing? - never noticed any significant HD thrashing on any of the 50-60 PCs I have put Vista on. You can tell its there but never enough to warrant any worries.
Elevon said:
Cheeky sod. I can. Read my posts properly.
If you check on the previous post you will see that I have taken 2 of my own PCs that are very very close to the same system, and installed Vista and on one of them, the performace is poor and the other, the performace is fine. That has nothing to do with my own skill, but rather Vista itself being a slacker in somehting? - I have swapped the PCs about in this respect and on both PCs the PArformace under XP, is exactly on par with each other, but under Vista ( Both Business and Ultimate ) the dual core is always significantly slower then the single core opteron. I dont have time to fully check it out, it could be the Mobo, it could be the RAM, it could be a million things, including me missing somethign silly, and I have not got time to check it out, because they are only 2 Pcs that I dont use... Hence using them to do any vista trials.
Its not the performance either. I have not moaned once about the performance of vista in general, as I think its fairly good. its other things that vista does that I dont like... The Partitioning issues you can get, the fact that a massive number of my apps simply dont work under it, and this is forcing me to now re-pay for software that I already own... Such as Partition Magic, O&O DeFrag and so on... I have to re-pay for entirely new versions rather than being able to just downlaod a patch? - Vista is costing me a lot more than just the price of Vista alone. And while a lot of software does run under Vista just fine, a lot of software does not either.
FatRakoon said:
I remember when XP was first released,it had similar software problems and a lot more BSODs,fact remains Vista is a lot more solid OS,especially when you compare it to XP when it was released in its first year,XP has had around 7 years of updates,drivers,software etc...Vista on the otherhand is still young,however when you take that into account its a damn fine OS for being less then 6 months old.
Remember XP was built on 2K so your statement about what they learned from XP to Vista works both ways,infact you can go right back to the good old DOS days if you want.
I can see the same old arguments coming when Vienna is released down the road and the cycle will start all over again between Vista and Vienna.
Personally I'm shocked how compatible Vista is with both games and software and I don't say that lightly.
Fact remains Vista is an improvement over XP and Vista will only get better over time,remember XP before SP1?.... I do and I won't even comment on how bad it was.
Elevon said:
I cannot comment muc on XPs early days... I got it very early, but I was so happy with 2K that I was loathed to upgarde and yes, I had a hard time doing it... When I did eventually upgrade to XP, thats what I did at first... Upgrade rather than fresh install and I am happy to say that I dont think I had a single issue with XP? - At least at this momnent in time, I cannot remember having any?
Yes, XP is basically 2K with knobs on while Vista is a whole different ball game, I can acceopt that, but only to a point... Vista still uses a hell of a lot of 2K/XP Drivers so its not as seperate as many seem to claim it is... Kind of like how so many people still think that Windows ME does not have DOS and is based on NT?
I fully agree with you that Vista is a lot better at 6 months than XP was, I myself didnt like XP purely on the eye candy and no other fair reason, and when I did move up, I found no compatibilty problems at all, and everythign I had, run fine on XP and in fact, better on XP than on 2K in many cases. With Vista, Im finding a lot of software does not run... Most of the stuff is silly non-essential stuff I accept that, but its essential to me. I have spent a lot of money on some of my apps and thn to find that they wont work full under Vista is starting to annoy me like hell.
Good old DOS days? hell, showing our ages arent we?
Final statement on there... Vista is new and will only get better.. .This is true. And its also why many users have no intention of going to Vista until its SP comes out... Same as what happened with XP, and no doubt the same will happen in future releases of Windows.