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Meh, who cares I guess. "What If" is a very vague way to judge someone's entire life on.
Maybe we should take every car off the road on the basis of "What If"?
Just to show that we *do* have a functioning justice system...
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Meh, who cares I guess. "What If" is a very vague way to judge someone's entire life on.
Maybe we should take every car off the road on the basis of "What If"?
If life means life what is the motivation to act good in prison? If they know there is no serious consequence to their actions what is to stop them from starting mass riots within prison, spend their time smuggling drugs, attacking other prisoners and guards etc. Without a mass rebuild of the prisons in the country solitary confinement would not be possible for all lifers due to the lack of space
Why you may not like the attitude of "letting people off for good behaviour" it is for the benefit of maintaining the prison system. Also would there end up being any space in the prisons for other offenders?
Why you may not like the attitude of "letting people off for good behaviour" it is for the benefit of maintaining the prison system. Also would there end up being any space in the prisons for other offenders?
There is a simple answer to this, don't murder someone.
it's not just about justice there's also protection to take into account, hence indeterminate sentences etc.
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Why are you twisting what I am saying? Do you have a complete inability to think straight?
In no way did I say that murdering someone was OK.
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That's not an answer to my question.
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It's not that simple, the 3 strike system they have in some states in America proves that, which is why you have people on jail over there for decades for stealing a candy bar.
Doesn't that assume she'll never be rehabilitated?
No, it assumes she won't be rehabilitated instantly.
And some people are given indeterminate sentences because there is the chance they will never rehabilitate.
Isn't that true of any custodial sentence?
Not a short one as what if they don't rehabilitate before the release date comes up?
life + a minimum means that if she rehabilitates and is safe for release in 15 years she can be, if she never does she can be kept till she is no longer a threat.
Maybe we should give people their sentence and it only starts once they are considered rehabilitated.
I will never understand the guilty plea though. It was definately her that knocked the lady to the ground and then decided that she needed a good stomping. If she had died from the fall then I can understand a reduced sentence as that was not the intention. Stamping on an old ladies head will pretty much always result in unfortunate results.
What other plea can there be?
Did you push this lady over and stamp on her head?
'Well, yes I did but I am not guilty of it'
Silly us, how could we think that you were guilty just because you committed the crime.
I will never understand the guilty plea though. It was definately her that knocked the lady to the ground and then decided that she needed a good stomping. If she had died from the fall then I can understand a reduced sentence as that was not the intention. Stamping on an old ladies head will pretty much always result in unfortunate results.
What other plea can there be?
Did you push this lady over and stamp on her head?
'Well, yes I did but I am not guilty of it'
Silly us, how could we think that you were guilty just because you committed the crime.
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