Just watched last LOTR again but....

Isn't it because all the stuff/trauma/etc he's gone through in the last year meant that normal life would just never be the same again in the Shire, and went off to spend the rest of the time with the Elves over the pond in the west?

Not read the book, so can't really say the exact reason, but I'd guess there's a whole lot of pages on why.
 
From the books!!! He goes becuase the wound he suffers from the shadow knife in book 1, cannot heal on middle earth so he needs to go to the elven land to rest and stuff :P

Thats if i remember correctly, been a long time.

Also as an ex ring bearer he needed to go.
 
Thanks for the replies :).
Just seemed a bit stupid how him and his friends have gone through all that then suddenly at the end he leaves everything behind never to come back again.
 
Basically he has been changed by his ordeal so much, the ring has almost twisted and broken him over time.
 
Sam said 'no'.


































Nah just kidding, I've read the books, it's to do with his injury from the ringwraith blade, and that he felt he had had his adventures like his uncle Bilbo had before him, and that the Shire didn't feel like home anymore. *sniffle :( Although it would have made more sense, if they had used the ending from the book regarding the Shire. ;)
 
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Tony Soprano said:
Sam said 'no'.


































Nah just kidding, I've read the books, it's to do with his injury from the ringwraith blade, and that he felt he had had his adventures like his uncle Bilbo had before him, and that the Shire didn't feel like home anymore. *sniffle :( Although it would have made more sense, if they had used the ending from the book regarding the Shire. ;)
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and whats the endiong from the book regarding the shire?
 
CDj-Rossi said:
and whats the endiong from the book regarding the shire?
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We could stipulate Shire finally becomes full member of NATO and is invited to join EC. After waves of barefoot immigrants following in Froddo's footsteps, National Party wins elections in Elven lands and mass deportations begin. Dwarfs, despite protests from United Nations, attack Mordor for the second time to gain control over oil fields (used previously to spawn Orcs). Arwen introduces personal hygene to land ruled by Aragorn through door to door pyramid scheme business.
 
CDj-Rossi said:
and whats the endiong from the book regarding the shire?
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Spoilers ahead, obviously.

Merry and Pippin return to the Shire to find the Hobbits subdued and the land bleak and unfriendly. It turns out that they have a new leader, a human called Sharkey, who is ruling the Hobbits and generally making life miserable. Cue Merry and Pippin rounding everyone up, beating on Sharkey's lackeys with their new-found fighting skills and going to confront the man himself. It's revealed that 'Sharkey' is actually a magic-deprived Saruman (who doesn't die at Isengard in the book) and that he still has Wormtongue as his much put-upon aide. Cue some arguments and fighting, and then Saruman turns and stalks away only to be stabbed in the back and killed by Wormtongue.

When Frodo and Sam return to the shire Sam is elected Mayor, and he plants the seeds that he was given in Lothlórien to grow the only Mallorn tree outside the great forest. He marries Rosie and has bucketloads of kids, and remains Mayor for some unprecedented amount of time before eventually finishing the Red Book and then departing to follow Frodo across the sea. Aww etc.
 
Arcade Fire said:
Spoilers ahead, obviously.

Merry and Pippin return to the Shire to find the Hobbits subdued and the land bleak and unfriendly. It turns out that they have a new leader, a human called Sharkey, who is ruling the Hobbits and generally making life miserable. Cue Merry and Pippin rounding everyone up, beating on Sharkey's lackeys with their new-found fighting skills and going to confront the man himself. It's revealed that 'Sharkey' is actually a magic-deprived Saruman (who doesn't die at Isengard in the book) and that he still has Wormtongue as his much put-upon aide. Cue some arguments and fighting, and then Saruman turns and stalks away only to be stabbed in the back and killed by Wormtongue.

When Frodo and Sam return to the shire Sam is elected Mayor, and he plants the seeds that he was given in Lothlórien to grow the only Mallorn tree outside the great forest. He marries Rosie and has bucketloads of kids, and remains Mayor for some unprecedented amount of time before eventually finishing the Red Book and then departing to follow Frodo across the sea. Aww etc.
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Correct but all the hobbits return together.
 
Yeah, I thought they might have done but I couldn't remember what role Frodo and Sam had in the Scouring - so I just assumed that they weren't there ;)
 
The whole point with the shire was rather key in the story, which is why it is such a travesty it was removed from the film. Tolkein wanted to get the clear message across that what happens in the world affects everyone, no matter who they are, where they are or what they are. The hobbits always had the impression that the whole Ring thing, and the war and that was "big people stuff" that didn't affect them at all. The four adventuring hobbits all had this hope during the book that no matter what happened the shire would still be there and would still be the shire. That it got taken over by the very same evil they'd been out fighting hammered the truth home.
 
If i recall all the ring bearers leave eventially. Bilbo, Frodo, Sam ...

I think its more to do with having had the burden of carrying the ring than Frodo's dagger injury as otherwise why did Bilbo and Sam go. Remember that Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond were also all ring bearers, although not of the "One" ring.
 
Its simple ....


Frodo leaves because we was a ring bearer ..... didnt any of you read the book :confused:

thats why Galadriel leaves as she has Narnya, one of the elven rings of power, its also why Elrond leaves, and Bilbo, and Gandalf ...


if you read on about what happened at the start of the third age (this age starts at the moment the ring of power is destroyed) Sam leaves also and sails to the grey Havens many years later after his wife Rose dies ...


so there :p
 
Well it's been over five years since I read the book, and since watching the films, some details are now a little hazy and I don't think I'd have the patience reading it again. ;)
 
Sam doesn't plant "Mallorn trees" but he does plant a Mallorn tree. More importantly, he scatters a box of earth he was given by Galadriel into the wind which spreads throughout the Shire to speed the re-growth of all the trees cut down by Sharkey.

A couple of other small things from the end. When Pippin and Merry were in Fangorn during the Entmoot, they are given Entdraught to drink which causes them to grow. They become bigger than the legendary Bullroarer Took and thus the tallest Hobbits ever and are finally laid to rest in Gondor.
 
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Yeah, I thought they might have done but I couldn't remember what role Frodo and Sam had in the Scouring - so I just assumed that they weren't there ;)
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Pretty much the same as Merry and Pippin, they just weren't as big because they'd not had the Ent draught.
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thats why Galadriel leaves as she has Narnya, one of the elven rings of power, its also why Elrond leaves, and Bilbo, and Gandalf ...
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Galadriel had Nenya, Gandalf had Narya :)
 
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