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Just what is NVIDIA up to?

People are still blinded tbh, just look at the Asus DIY group and you'll know its full of clueless people. a lot of it has to do with brand loyalty though, they will eat up whatever the brand has to offer blindly even if its overpriced garbage.

Yeah. AMD need to work in their marketing and perception of them being the cheaper, lower quality alternative.
 
According to TPU the distance between the 6800XT and the 3080 is 4%, vs the 6800 its 21%.

7900XT vs 4080 is 14%.

So its not 6800XT but its also not a 6800.

Right, and then there's this, which absolutely no one in the mainstream press is talking about, granted its only a couple of examples but i would like the whole stack of games retested because those are some serious performance gains from a driver update.
Its #### odd because there were reports that AMD was working on getting some of the missing performance through drivers, all the mainstream channels said no you're all AMD fanboys AMD just lied.
This is the problem with this type of click bait journalism, they make pompous statements like that to deliberately aggravate people and if it turns out they are wrong they ignore it because it then makes them looks like idiots.

So until we know what the actual performance of these cards is NOW we can't judge what they are worth.


here you go re review
Radeon RX 7900 XT Re-Review, What Should Have Been!
 
I'll watch that in a bit thanks :)

The Moore's Law Is Dead YouTube channel is reporting that Nvidia has all but ceased production of Lovelace as it has plenty of stock and is shifting production to the much more profitable Hopper.


Re: the caption in the Youtube thumbnail, i don't see how that would benefit AMD, Nvidia will have a stock pile of them so its not as if Nvidia will stop selling them.

If anything the might bring Hopper forward a bit, that would hurt AMD because they left it nearly a year before brining out the mainstream RDNA3 GPU's.
 
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The Moore's Law Is Dead YouTube channel is reporting that Nvidia has all but ceased production of Lovelace as it has plenty of stock and is shifting production to the much more profitable Hopper.


The rule of thumb on YouTube clickbait still applies

Any questions in the video title, the answer is always no

So when MLID asks if amd will benefit in the video title, the answer is no. He wants you to click on the video to find out but the answer is no you don't even need to watch it because the law of clickbait questions applies here
 
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here you go re review
Radeon RX 7900 XT Re-Review, What Should Have Been!

So its now 14% faster than the 4070Ti while it is 6% more expensive.

That's a 20% better cost to performance ratio, its a shame they didn't add the 4080 in there as that would have been a complete joke.
 
That review matches what most of us said about this new gen from both AMD and Nvidia. The GPUs are technically good, the prices are bad. Thankfully AMD 7900 XT and XTX can be found for much cheaper than MSRP, but that is not down to AMD reducing prices officially. But Nvidia are still really taking the pee on pricing this gen.
 
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So its now 14% faster than the 4070Ti while it is 6% more expensive.

That's a 20% better cost to performance ratio, its a shame they didn't add the 4080 in there as that would have been a complete joke.

yup would have liked to seen xtx and 4080 added, no doubt imo the 7900xt is the deal of this generation so far
 
So its now 14% faster than the 4070Ti while it is 6% more expensive.

That's a 20% better cost to performance ratio, its a shame they didn't add the 4080 in there as that would have been a complete joke.

Essentially yes, the older 7900 XT avg scores have been bumped up due to the driver oprimisation on a few games. So when you use the older TPU numbers to compare vs the 40x0 range average at 4K, that is based on outaded scores. I'm happy they didn't include the 4080 in their tests because that is a significantly more expensive GPU and people ignore prices in these reviews to focus on FPS. Or my favourite "OMG why is the Nvidia GPU I want not cheaper because the 7900 XT is so good price/perf".
 
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that's $100 cheaper than the card its replaced.
If you look at its specs its replacing the 3060 12gb.

276mm2 die 192bit bus and 12gb VRAM vs 294mm2 die 192 bus and 12gb VRAM, You're being fooled by the naming rather than looking at the specs.
 
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Essentially yes, the older 7900 XT avg scores have been bumped up due to the driver oprimisation on a few games. So when you use the older TPU numbers to compare vs the 40x0 range average at 4K, that is based on outaded scores. I'm happy they didn't include the 4080 in their tests because that is a significantly more expensive GPU and people ignore prices in these reviews to focus on FPS. Or my favourite "OMG why is the Nvidia GPU I want not cheaper because the 7900 XT is so good price/perf".

Good points...
 
So its now 14% faster than the 4070Ti while it is 6% more expensive.

That's a 20% better cost to performance ratio, its a shame they didn't add the 4080 in there as that would have been a complete joke.
Tbf the 4070ti is an abysmal card at its price point so beating it by 20% in price performance is not exactly pulling up trees.
 
yup would have liked to seen xtx and 4080 added, no doubt imo the 7900xt is the deal of this generation so far

If we take HUB's +3% average.

At this point the 4080 is about 20% ahead of the 7900XT, for 66% more money.
The 7900XTX 7% ahead of the 4080, the 4080 is 24% more expensive.
The 4090 is 19% ahead of the 7900XXXXTXXXXXXX for 69% more money.

When you lay it out like that the AMD cards are much better.

IMO at £725 i don't think the 7900XTX is stupidly priced, at £890 the XTX certainly isn't, on HUB's cost per frame chart the 7900XT ranks near the top, above all the previous gen cards, ironically the RX 7600 is the top ranking one for that, its the one HUB hated, its the best value of all of them.
 
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Tbf the 4070ti is an abysmal card at its price point so beating it by 20% in price performance is not exactly pulling up trees.

What is your point any more? You are literally contradicting yourself every other post now. So the 7900 XT is crap because it's not as fast the Nvidia's 2nd tir card the 4080 but you ignore the 4080 price, but the 7900 XT is also crap because it is 20% faster than the Nvidia GPU it beats on price?
 
7900XT w/Starfield Premium is definitely the deal to get atm for £700ish.
Yeah, if I have 700 quid to spend on a GPU I'd be going for the 7900XT or, if I had to go the Nvidia route, I'm going for a 4070 and pocketing the rest / using the rest on better components through the rest of the build.
 
IMO at £725 i don't think the 7900XTX is stupidly priced, at £890 the XTX certainly isn't, on HUB's cost per frame chart the 7900XT ranks near the top, above all the previous gen cards, ironically the RX 7600 is the top ranking one for that, its the one HUB hated, its the best value of all of them.
Do many people make those sorts of judgments though, personally speaking I'll get whatever is best in my price bracket. If i had a budget of £700 I'd consider increasing it by £25 but there's no way I'd spend an extra £190, even if that afforded me a much better card.
 
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What is your point any more? You are literally contradicting yourself every other post now. So the 7900 XT is crap because it's not as fast the Nvidia's 2nd tir card the 4080 but you ignore the 4080 price, but the 7900 XT is also crap because it is 20% faster than the Nvidia GPU it beats on price?
The point is, just being better value than Nvidia doesn't automatically make it "good" value especially when Nvidia are so far away from good value this generation its unreal.
 
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