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Just what is NVIDIA up to?
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Well, yeah...
I was joking around since people compare 4090 to 3090 and found it to be great, but when you compare it to 3080 there isn't that much difference in terms of price / performance increase from the 3080.
Or 7900 series vs 6900.
Of course they were/are ALL bad.
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Tbh might not be the worst thing in the world, depends how good their midrange will be. The RX580 is still one of their most successful cards, I think its still one of their highest on the Steam charts.
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Say what they are leaking is true - RDNA4 is using a "small die". Surely like with Zen2 onwards with dual chiplets they would have dual GCDs and multiple MCDs instead?
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I doubt that's true but if it was that would hilarious in a bad way, basically a return to the rx 480/580 where amd was making low end and entry mid range GPUs only
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Its likely going to end that way anyway if 80+% people buy nvidia each cycle they upgrade.
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If they could only offer the same Nvidia does...
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..then my nGreedia card would be cheaper? Right?
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Well AMD apparently wants to ripoff people who want to buy their products too. So it seems AMD really wants us to get one of their lower margin consoles instead. So if you get a console,that means you don't need one of their new Zen4/Zen5 CPUs too,when they are struggling to sell CPUs too.
They learnt nothing from Zen where they took two generations of beating Intel in price/performance and features to build the momentum for Zen3. They even priced their server and commercial products lower.
Consumer dGPUs - LeTs MaTcH nViDiA iN pRiCe.
Oh noes! Its not working. Lets repeat it again and make the RX7700XT replacement an RX7800XT.
If this was ATI I would have some faith they would hammer an RTX4070. But this is the same company which published fantasy rasterised performance figures for the RX7900 series.
No wonder Robert Hallock left.
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Hallock was in the CPU division, not GPU.
The reason why AMD did well against Intel was because Intel messed up. They were years behind on their latest process node, and still had the IPC lead for many gens. If Intel was on track, it would have been a very different last 5 years. Nvidia is not really messing up at the moment.
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He was head of all technical marketing. Also Intel might have messed up,but AMD also priced well for two whole generations because they couldn't launch a knockout blow. Even when they eventually beat Intel they had something Intel did not have too(16 core desktop CPUs) and even with Zen2 they had an advantage at the top.
AMD RTG seems to be trying to get Zen3 before they even got to Zen2. Nvidia took many generations of being the fastest,and huge amounts of money spent on marketing,etc to get to this level to try moves like this.
If AMD RTG was to do the same with Zen,AMD would have priced their CPUs core to core almost the same as Intel for BOTH Zen1 and Zen2. Then had no 16 core Zen2 CPU.
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Just checking you aren't pigeon holing me into the must be an AMD fanboy because I give nvidia a lot of ****.
AMD are not better, they are another vendor or should I say pretty much the only other vendor in the space so I don't really have much faith in the duopoly. Generally in nvidia threads I try to refrain from discussing the other brand (like this thread). The whataboutisms are equally as tiring as the circular points in most of these threads. 
Seems like AMD are re spinning rDNA 3, it just means that won't have a GPU above the current offerings.
They've done crap like this before but only because they had nothing but right now it's obviously a case of, if we can't over charge no new GPU for you.
They've done crap like this before but only because they had nothing but right now it's obviously a case of, if we can't over charge no new GPU for you.
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Just checking you aren't pigeon holing me into the must be an AMD fanboy because I give nvidia a lot of ****.
The issue is AMD is copying Nvidia tactics despite seeing the backlash against them. I honestly don't understand why they are so happy to give Nvidia such leeway,when Nvidia apparently has stopped caring about the consumer market. So Nvidia is trying one with its fanbase,and AMD appears to treat its own fanbase and potential customers with the same distain.
Well then I suppose some of us will have to stick with our older systems. No point spending decent money to get upgrades which are poor.
Sat with a 1080ti I got second hand in 2018 and looking at an upgrade path to ~4080 performance levels, but none of the current cards give me the value I want so it's a waiting game.
Interesting to hear AMD are releasing more cards although as others have pointed out sadly they won't bring the value they use to.
Interesting to hear AMD are releasing more cards although as others have pointed out sadly they won't bring the value they use to.
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I wouldn't care if it's red or green, but I do care to have the best performance, features and price.
Yes, Nvidia will have some mindshare, just like Intel has/had. Doing what AMD does is not gonna change that. They're just doing what Vaas said in FC 3 about madness.
Intel also got complacence when they sat back on their 4 cores are enough laurels.
I'd also disagree with the Nvidia not messing up thing, they're messing up the pricing but that can be fixed at a moments notice and arguably they're also messing up with the whole upscaling/raytracing thing but it seems their marketing dept are doing a good job when it comes to convincing the majority of people that those are good things to have.
Probably the happiest the AMD GPU team was in years and since, low cost card, low R&D cost, people liked it, they sold very well.
AMD didn't have to contend with any "AMD aren't doing enough to make my Nvidia cheaper" nonsense.
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IMO that is part of the problem with AMD not being able to gain any market share, providing high end alternatives to Nvidia they can never do enough so they will always get a bad rep.
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So how they're doing with current crop of cards of 8gb? Is not only 7900xt(x) in their offer.
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