Just won.....£430 from a casino
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i dont have a signup bonus thomy account stands at £29 with nothing to fall back on, i can stand losing £50 np... if i do i will have established that it doesnt work so well for me and leave others to make their fortune, just worried im doing something wrong
Are you playing multi-deck BJ or single deck BJ?
I chose Single Deck and I think the house edge is less than 1% on £1 bets, but obviously not if they've rinsed nearly £40 on me.
I'd put the £29 on Rangers to win the Scottish cup to be honest!
i believe its single deck, I'll plod on regardless, taken me 3 hours to get to £700 wagered tho, i must be slower than everyone else as well as not being as lucky
following the one here:
http://www.blackholebonus.com/casinos/casinofactfile.php?id=15
although the VC Casino isn't the one on that page, so maybe the table is out-dated also?
i cant be going far wrong, over the course of 700 hands i've only lost £21, just that if the current trend continues, i'll get 70% of the way to the bonus of £100 and will of lost all of my £50 initial investment... i could invest another £25 to see me through but then i would only see £25 profit for 6-8 hours work... which isnt worth doing imo...
so im hoping im doing it wrong
Soldato
following the one here:
http://www.blackholebonus.com/casinos/casinofactfile.php?id=15
although the VC Casino isn't the one on that page, so maybe the table is out-dated also?
i cant be going far wrong, over the course of 700 hands i've only lost £21, just that if the current trend continues, i'll get 70% of the way to the bonus of £100 and will of lost all of my £50 initial investment... i could invest another £25 to see me through but then i would only see £25 profit for 6-8 hours work... which isnt worth doing imo...
so im hoping im doing it wrong
VC seems to have a reputation for being very streaky (i.e. you either do really rubbish or really well). Some other casinos have always seemed more fair to me, for example Coral.
If the bonus is a post-wager bonus (i.e. you get it after wagering the required amount) then you should always re-deposit if you bust out whilst trying to reach the wager requirement.
Can you leave Casibot to run whilst you do other things, or does it need to be the active window?[/QUOTE]
Yeah unfortunately it needs an active window. Which is annoying as I only have one laptop. I try and do it when I go to sleep, not gonna help the insomniacs amongst us.
Yeah unfortunately it needs an active window. Which is annoying as I only have one laptop. I try and do it when I go to sleep, not gonna help the insomniacs amongst us.
it does indeed seem quite streaky... i guess you know you've been had when you invest over £100 to get that £100 bonus back... think i'll call it quits after this casino regardless... it takes too long
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THe problem is, its all based on luck in general. You should 100% make sure you have the right table, the wrong table with a single option different means you could be essentially losing one hand everytime when you should maybe be winning it 2/3 of the time. Remember also in general the trend seems to be, the doubling up options are where you make money, the single bets will almost always have a house bet. Everyone I've done so far stats dictate that single bets i'm always between 10-25% down on, but double bets i'm normally 5-20% up on which normally evens out. So i might lose 50 double bets, but win 65, while at the same time winning 500 singles, but losing 600. It evens up the losese dramatically, but on one day the doubles are all going wrong you make a big loss really.
ALso, 99% of the casino's do NOT allow single deck blackjack to count against the wagering requirement so double check what you're doing asap. single deck has around a 0.1-0.15% house edge, tiny in the end, but the lower the betting requirement, the less evened out the results will be. multideck(often 6 it seems on most casino's) still only gets up to a house edge of 0.6% at the worst but thats assuming you play enough hands and with perfect stratagy and maybe a tiny bit of luck.
I had two very bad days and still made a profit. Bet365 i ended up losing the entire bonus and 10% deposit, so down £10. Golden palace was going so well, £7000 into the 8000 requirement i was up to £475(£100 deposit, 300 bonus 75 winnings) and ended up withdrawing at.............. wait for it.............. £246 total. Never seen such a horrendously bad streak, lost almost every double and I kept hitting doubles, software screwing with me? honestly couldn't say, feels like it. But even so thats £146 profit, though for a while there I was looking at a £350ish profit so was a bit of a kick in the teeth
Intercasino £45 deposit £45 bonus, down to £2 in 30 mins of pure bad luck, i quit and was really smegged off at that point, chances of me making that back now, next to none So total profit is only £90 from a possible £450(excluding winnings), and that would only have an expected value after betting of around £300. But I would say thats about as bad luck a run as you can have, hopefully I can go for another few casino's with my bad luck allotment all gone and bag close to the full bonus.
Not tried VC yet, but bear in mind that some casino's are INCREDIBLY SLOW per hand and some are massively faster, most have the faster software. Intercasino was abysmally slow compared to Golden Palace, also remember after 1-2 thousand hands from the very start you automatically know what 99% of the choices are and can send off hands in seconds easily.
From what I can tell casibot which i used a little, made my computer very laggy(using more cores than it should maybe, need to check) and uses your mouse to make real movements in the software so using mouse pauses it for 5-10 seconds meaning you really need to run it on a computer you aren't using.
ALso, 99% of the casino's do NOT allow single deck blackjack to count against the wagering requirement so double check what you're doing asap. single deck has around a 0.1-0.15% house edge, tiny in the end, but the lower the betting requirement, the less evened out the results will be. multideck(often 6 it seems on most casino's) still only gets up to a house edge of 0.6% at the worst but thats assuming you play enough hands and with perfect stratagy and maybe a tiny bit of luck.
I had two very bad days and still made a profit. Bet365 i ended up losing the entire bonus and 10% deposit, so down £10. Golden palace was going so well, £7000 into the 8000 requirement i was up to £475(£100 deposit, 300 bonus 75 winnings) and ended up withdrawing at.............. wait for it.............. £246 total. Never seen such a horrendously bad streak, lost almost every double and I kept hitting doubles, software screwing with me? honestly couldn't say, feels like it. But even so thats £146 profit, though for a while there I was looking at a £350ish profit so was a bit of a kick in the teeth
Intercasino £45 deposit £45 bonus, down to £2 in 30 mins of pure bad luck, i quit and was really smegged off at that point, chances of me making that back now, next to none
So total profit is only £90 from a possible £450(excluding winnings), and that would only have an expected value after betting of around £300. But I would say thats about as bad luck a run as you can have, hopefully I can go for another few casino's with my bad luck allotment all gone and bag close to the full bonus.Not tried VC yet, but bear in mind that some casino's are INCREDIBLY SLOW per hand and some are massively faster, most have the faster software. Intercasino was abysmally slow compared to Golden Palace, also remember after 1-2 thousand hands from the very start you automatically know what 99% of the choices are and can send off hands in seconds easily.
From what I can tell casibot which i used a little, made my computer very laggy(using more cores than it should maybe, need to check) and uses your mouse to make real movements in the software so using mouse pauses it for 5-10 seconds meaning you really need to run it on a computer you aren't using.
Soldato
Intercasino software seems to be ridiculously streaky (and i seem to get all of the bad streaks). I gave up with their monthlies after busting out every month for a good few months.Intercasino £45 deposit £45 bonus, down to £2 in 30 mins of pure bad luck, i quit and was really smegged off at that point, chances of me making that back now, next to none
the offer
this is going to be a silly question
does that mean that if i do play single deck black jack my total wagers arnt going towards the bonus, or that any different versions of single deck black jack, other than the original (which i should hopefully be playing) wont count?
VC Casino - terms and conditions said:
this is going to be a silly question
VC Casino - terms and conditions said:
does that mean that if i do play single deck black jack my total wagers arnt going towards the bonus, or that any different versions of single deck black jack, other than the original (which i should hopefully be playing) wont count?
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single deck = not allowed according to those terms, so multideck is the only choice there, which from what i've seen in the last 2-3 days tends to mean 6 deck, raises the chances a little but not hugely AFAIK it shuffles after every hand? so even single deck isn't much different, chances only change when for instance you've pulled 3 aces in your hand and the dealer is showing a 10, his chances of an A are massively reduced, but hand ends, shuffle happens, aces all back in play.
Make sure you have the right table for the right software/right casino to get optimum strategy. Also it seems, Intercasino's might not be the way to go. I guess possibly if you went with a bigger deposit to account for more streaky ness if infact the upswings are just as long might make it worthwhile as you can get £45 a month from them. ALso maybe £45 a month from the USA version and one of the 4 Euro versions it sounds like, £150ish a month wouldn't be bad if the chances don't suck.
Make sure you have the right table for the right software/right casino to get optimum strategy. Also it seems, Intercasino's might not be the way to go. I guess possibly if you went with a bigger deposit to account for more streaky ness if infact the upswings are just as long might make it worthwhile as you can get £45 a month from them. ALso maybe £45 a month from the USA version and one of the 4 Euro versions it sounds like, £150ish a month wouldn't be bad if the chances don't suck.
D'oh!
Log in and check, it normally tells you in the Cashier how much you have wagered towards getting your bonus.
just had a look round and i cant seem to find anything, also it doesnt say if the blackjack is single or multi deck...
£50 buy in, £50 free from Will Hill. Couldn't win on Roulette which is what I opted to play.
In the small print I had to spend over £1,400 (or so) before I could cash out which stupidly I didn't notice. Blackjack, Roulette and Craps didn't count towards the total, so it was left to Fruit Machines.
I threw down £25 on 10 and £5 on first 1/3 and won doing that twice (£900-ish per win) and won a few times on the Fruit Machine (few hundreds, probably around £600 all told), after the ups and downs I left with £700
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In the small print I had to spend over £1,400 (or so) before I could cash out which stupidly I didn't notice. Blackjack, Roulette and Craps didn't count towards the total, so it was left to Fruit Machines.
I threw down £25 on 10 and £5 on first 1/3 and won doing that twice (£900-ish per win) and won a few times on the Fruit Machine (few hundreds, probably around £600 all told), after the ups and downs I left with £700
.Just got the £20 bonus thing from Ladbrokes so am going to have a little try, where do you get the charts from, there don't seen to be any on the beatthebonus site?
EDIT: Well using the table I found on the beat the bonus site and betting £2 each hand I was out in about 20 hands, won about 3, and when I got a blackjack the dealer did too...
EDIT: Well using the table I found on the beat the bonus site and betting £2 each hand I was out in about 20 hands, won about 3, and when I got a blackjack the dealer did too...
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On my Gala casino one it says in the Cashier something like -
Account Type (Sport / Casino etc) - Amount deposited - Bonus - Wager - Bonus Target
Under Bonus it is currently £0 because I haven't wagered the £1250 yet, Wager is 1250, so I have to wager £1250 before I get the bonus and Bonust target says 500, as I've only wagered £500.
Account Type (Sport / Casino etc) - Amount deposited - Bonus - Wager - Bonus Target
Under Bonus it is currently £0 because I haven't wagered the £1250 yet, Wager is 1250, so I have to wager £1250 before I get the bonus and Bonust target says 500, as I've only wagered £500.
£50 buy in, £50 free from Will Hill. Couldn't win on Roulette which is what I opted to play.
In the small print I had to spend over £1,400 (or so) before I could cash out which stupidly I didn't notice. Blackjack, Roulette and Craps didn't count towards the total, so it was left to Fruit Machines.
I threw down £25 on 10 and £5 on first 1/3 and won doing that twice (£900-ish per win) and won a few times on the Fruit Machine (few hundreds, probably around £600 all told), after the ups and downs I left with £700
Nice work - was that recently?