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Kepler schedule revealed

Looks like speculation. There is no info regarding source, plus details are severely lacking. They should atleast have made some pretty black and green graphs...
 
555BUK said:
Looks like speculation. There is no info regarding source, plus details are severely lacking. They should atleast have made some pretty black and green graphs...
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+1.

However, all things considered I'd expect this kind of time frame. Nvidia desktop partners are pretty ****ed at AMD having the fastest single chip crown (think EVGA etc losing money to 7970 at the top end), so I imagine the roadmap which supposedly was putting GK110 in Q3 earliest might have been revised. Money talks etc.

As for pricing? GTX 580 was at least £550 at launch with price gouging in the UK (right here on OCUK kids!), so GTX 680/GK110 isn't going to launch any less than that. I was right with 7970 prices, and I'm calling £600 release day price on this card.
 
DamoTourettes said:
+1.

However, all things considered I'd expect this kind of time frame. Nvidia desktop partners are pretty ****ed at AMD having the fastest single chip crown (think EVGA etc losing money to 7970 at the top end), so I imagine the roadmap which supposedly was putting GK110 in Q3 earliest might have been revised. Money talks etc.

As for pricing? GTX 580 was at least £550 at launch with price gouging in the UK (right here on OCUK kids!), so GTX 680/GK110 isn't going to launch any less than that. I was right with 7970 prices, and I'm calling £600 release day price on this card.
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Lets hope it doesnt jump the same percentage as ATI's latest offering to the previous..
 
£600 sounds a bit much to me, especially under the current economic climate. If it somehow gets released at that price they won't sell many.
 
Wucked said:
£600 sounds a bit much to me, especially under the current economic climate. If it somehow gets released at that price they won't sell many.
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There's a little thing called inflation. Year on year it's around 5%, which doesn't sound like much, but it's invariable. Given current 3GB 580's are selling between £380 and £500, I'd expect the 680 to come out at £600 initially, then fall back to a "regular" price of £520 - £550 in the first month. Let's compare it to 7970 - those things are still on pre-order prices of £550, so a card with considerably more power isn't going to go for an initial list price of any less than that. £600 - that's my day dot call.
 
Gtiracer said:
Wasn't it confirmed they weren't going to be called the 600 series but the 700 series instead or was that just speculation?
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I heard that somewhere too, can't recall where though.

April is around when Ivy Bridge is suppost to come out aswell... makes me want to build another system. :(
 
DamoTourettes said:
There's a little thing called inflation. Year on year it's around 5%, which doesn't sound like much, but it's invariable. Given current 3GB 580's are selling between £380 and £500, I'd expect the 680 to come out at £600 initially, then fall back to a "regular" price of £520 - £550 in the first month. Let's compare it to 7970 - those things are still on pre-order prices of £550, so a card with considerably more power isn't going to go for an initial list price of any less than that. £600 - that's my day dot call.
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Be as patronising as you like, and yes it may well be released at that price, I didn't say it absolutely wont be. But honestly what sensible person will buy? Certainly not I. Its feasible, to me at least, that current and upcoming socioeconomic shenanigans will offset some of the typical yearly inflation. Either way it'll be interesting to watch. And hopefully I'll still have a job in Q3+ so I can afford to find it interesting.
 
I've never seen an AMD card released at the same price as a Nvidia.

What I mean is Nvidias are always more expensive. The 480 launch price was a joke.

The problem is that Nvidia are truly under the logic that they don't need to compete. They're what you would call arrogant.

I've no doubt Kepler will be nothing short of amazing, but just like all other Nvidia products* it will have a price tag to match.

* 460 IMO was the only card priced brilliantly at launch. And Nvidia were seriously down on their luck at that time.
 
Gtiracer said:
Wasn't it confirmed they weren't going to be called the 600 series but the 700 series instead or was that just speculation?
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I suspect it was speculation, and I believe it was based around rumours that nVidia's planned successor to Fermi was FUBAR, so Kepler would be named 7xx series.

I've also read that some of the new notebooks will feature "GT 670" mobile Kepler chips. Mobile Kepler is apparently a die shrunk (40nm to 28nm) Fermi, so not a really new chip, or at least a b****** child of Fermi + (real)Kepler. If this is true it's conceivable that mobile Kepler may be called GT6xx and real Kepler will be called GT7xx.

The logical assumption is that Kepler (real, mobile or otherwise) will bear the GT 6xx nomenclature.

As for pricing, well, it's anyone's guess. Every time a new flagship GPU gets released I find myself thinking "surely it can't get any more expensive", and lo and behold, it IS more expensive than previous gen releases.

AMD had the luxury of setting pretty much whatever price they liked as they held the top spot. It seems almmost inevitable that nVidia will be doing the same with Kepler, so I think prices in the region of £600 on release day seem likely.

AMD may choose to drop prices to keep their cards appealing (historically they've competed strongly from a pricing standpoint with nVidia), which in turn would likely force GTX 580 prices downwards but is unlikely to drastically affect the GT 6xx prices unless sales are very sluggish.
 
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Yeah NVidia need to hurry up since people can't buy AMD cards beceause the drivers suck.

Even though I've barely ever had driver problems in my quest from 4870>5770>5850. :rolleyes:

And NVidia fanbois have nothing to talk about recently. Thank god they just released Tegra 3 so there's plenty on Tegra fanbois about right now. :D

Seriously though, in all honestly, I'm really interested about what they can bring to the market this time. And the sooner they get it out, the sooner we can get some better prices on 28nm GPUs :(
 
Wucked said:
Be as patronising as you like, and yes it may well be released at that price, I didn't say it absolutely wont be. But honestly what sensible person will buy? Certainly not I. Its feasible, to me at least, that current and upcoming socioeconomic shenanigans will offset some of the typical yearly inflation. Either way it'll be interesting to watch. And hopefully I'll still have a job in Q3+ so I can afford to find it interesting.
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Hey, not trying to be patronising, and agree with your sentiment.
 
Irrelevant to actual performance, there is a limit to the price that people will actually pay. Hyperthetically, if Kepler turns out to be 100% faster than the 7970, NVidia could "justifiably" charge twice as much for it. Performance per £ would be the same. However, there are very few people who would pay £800-£900 for a graphics card, whatever the performance.

AMD have already broken the $500 mark with the 7970. This is around the point where many people (even true enthusiasts with funds to spare) question whether the cost is justifiable. Anything above $500 is hard to sell, and anything over $600 is unsellable in anything other than small numbers where there will be no profit.

I expect Kepler to comfortably outperform the 7970 which currently holds a temporary premium price. I also expect the GTX780 to come in at around $550 (£450) because it will not sell at $600+. The 7970 will drop like a stone, and AMD will lauch tweaked replacement (possibly with additional shaders) to make up some of the difference. AMD will because the budget choice at sub $500 and NVidia will be the performance choice above $500. There is liitle room for a >$600 card. At >$600 it would have to offer trully monsterous performance to sell in sufficient numbers to make money.

My bet is £450 for the GTX780, with the 7970 dropping to £350, and the revised "7980" hitting £400.

I will probably be wrong (again), as this is just speculation.
 
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