Kid bypassing Laptop Windows Password

[OspreyO]

This - Op needs to show kid that they are the kid, follow the rules or face the consequences. - Its how it was when I was a little one... Trust me, I followed the rules - Probably because back then it was different, kids these days have zero respect.

In the old days you take their food away, and let them starve. But eventually you'd have to feed them, and the circle would continue.

I'm only here for the IT side. I have a T-Shirt for every simplistic parenting trope that will be trotted out. No offense.

 

[OspreyO]

Why wont you say how old they are?

The parenting advice you need to receive will be based on them being 5 or 25.

Because I'm only interested in the IT side. Not my only kid or first rodeo. The old carrot or stick stuff only goes so far.

 

[OspreyO]

It's his laptop and you give him admin access? so either leave them to log in or don't let them log in. If they wanna be in they going to be in.

I locked them out. They didn't stay locked out. Its not any more complicated than that.

 

[OspreyO]

None taken my dude. From an IT side it sounds like he is ahead of the gatekeeper. Gatekeeper needs to get smart There are ways to lock away the fun if you have good infrastructure at the back end A laptop with no internet is not much fun for a kid I imagine.

Hence the the thread for people to suggest ways.

Its impossible to remove internet access completely. Needs it for school. Once he has any access he can use Mac Spoofing, VPN, proxy sites, or even other peoples Wifi to get past any of my fences on my infrastructure.
Best I can do is throttle or and give him cruddy hardware. Or he can just download something they can play off line. Its a bit like Oliver Twist asking for more gruel.

I'm just looking something to frustrate him a bit. Also to track it.

 

[OspreyO]

I used to run a second Wifi Network, then I switched to using a parental firewall, retired all of that and just just using the various filtering on Mesh network I have now. May have to go back to two networks.

 

[OspreyO]

So you trying to be more clever than them then? I get it.

Looks like you going to need to remove admin access first, use a hidden account.
Second change DNS to something you control. PiHole for example.
Third lockdown DNS so it can't be changed as a standard user.
Fourth limit WiFi access in the house (timed access). (this won't stop them getting on net if they have a phone with tethering though, unless you got it locked down).
Fifth, mac address filtering on home network.
Sixth, change password on router and make sure admin account password on all systems is changed.
If they get in then as admin then you need to step up your game.

If you really wanna play go implement a active directory on home network and manage all systems by group policy.
To make changes they physically going to need access to that system, lock down (no remote access).

Lock it down water tight, but you will get sick in the end, give up and just let them have access.

Nope none of that. I just wanted to know how he could bypass the password. Because once he can circumvent that nothing else matters. Because he can access any admin account on the machine and bypass all the above.

But you are correct on one part, only. I am sick of it. But I won't give him access. I'll just remove physical access to the machine. Eventually it will turn up. Also he can't use it if he's hiding it. He's hiding it because last time this came up I took it away for almost two months.

 

[OspreyO]

Tell them if he tells you, you will ensure you will get them a job in tech that there's jobs going at where you work (if you work that is).

They will probably show you how it's done.
Then you can lock it down.

Simples.

I wish you had got a job in tech so.

 

[OspreyO]

They can just use another one. You won’t stop the kid.

If you'd been paying attention. You'd have read he has another laptop. But it's slow ultrabook. It will like trying to cut the lawn with scissors.

 

[OspreyO]

I thought you wanted to replace it with a slower laptop?

Maybe he’s got a key logger on it.
Maybe he’s got some software tools to bypass your admin passwords.
Maybe he’s got a secret webcam set up watching you type a password.
Maybe he’s got a logger cable between keyboard and port.
Maybe you should just ask them.

I'm not going repeat all that again.

I just wanted to know the options for bypassing a win11 password.

But it's been entertaining thread on a slow day.

 

[OspreyO]

Maybe they hacking you via Bluetooth?

Have you considered using ChatGPT.

 

[OspreyO]

You defo haven’t. I don’t need to, this isn’t a problem I have got to resolve but you can resolve it very easy.

The circus wouldn't take him.

 

[OspreyO]

There's been enough clowns on this thread.

 

[OspreyO]

No bitlocker will not help to stop him because he will find plenty of ways to bypass bitlocker password or disable bitlocker at startup with iSunshare BitLocker Genius.

4 Ways to Remove or Disable BitLocker Drive Encryption on Windows 10

www.isunshare.com

Most of those seem to require you to have logged in though, do they not.

 

[OspreyO]

How to Bypass Windows 10 Password? 2 Ways to Bypass the Login Screen - MSPoweruser

We’ll show you how to bypass the Windows 10 login screen without a password. It's much easier than you think!

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Or boot from another device like a usb

Still wont be able to log in though. It will get you on the hardware but not into windows.

 

[OspreyO]

I remember when I was younger. My school tried to lock everything down I would spend hours trying to break into the network for no reason other than it being locked.

Something along those lines. Being stubborn for the sake of it.

 

[OspreyO]

This is beyond easy to solve, even technically. However, if it's actually his laptop, why are you caring about what he's doing?

And no, bitlocker and bios configured in unison, he's not getting in...

The "why" is beyond easy to figure out, even technically.

 

[OspreyO]

I'll be quite frank. How you ever thought fathering children with this attitude is laughable. You care enough to worry about what they're doing on the laptop, but not enough to discipline them when they break the rules.

1. Get the laptop back immediately
2. Take the other laptop away
3. Stop being so useless
4. Learn to be better at IT. Limiting a child's (anyone's) IT through tech is beginner 101.
5. Learn about shadow IT. Where having a restrictive secure laptop, is not secure at all.

Then when you're ready to deal with your parenting failures, some other peoples suggestions might start to make more sense.

However, I'll humour you. Give me one good "why" reason?

You're amusingly very easily triggered for someone giving useless parental and IT advice.

 

[OspreyO]

For the hard of reading...

Well I asked specially asked about the IT issues as I didn't want to derail it with some uninformed conversion about parenting.

 

[OspreyO]

It's not an IT issue, it's a parenting issue. You're trying to make it an IT issue.

How old is the kid?

In fairness I only asked a very specific IT issue. Everything is others people projection.

I'll ask you, how does age change the technical answer.

 

[OspreyO]

A 6 year old probably isn't going to have access to some of the technical tools that an adult with physical access to the device would have.

No amount of security is going to prevent someone with enough time, resources, and physical access to a device from gaining entry.

But you know (if you read the thread) its someone with a history of hacking devices has circumvented the W11 password before Windows loads. They haven't guessed the password.
All they need is a USB key and access to the internet on other infrastructure. What technical tools? They can't use the device normally unless they have physical access to it. So thats given. Age is irrelevant. In just mind fart from people not thinking it through. As such doesn't deserve and answer.