Killzone just is no fun for me.

Johnnytoxic · 2 Mar 2009 at 01:07

Anyone find Fear2 controls a lot better?

C64 · 2 Mar 2009 at 01:23

For me consoles are for sports beat em ups and platformers everything else is better on pc imo.

But I do want a 360 for sf IV I just cant wait til july.

Margaret · 2 Mar 2009 at 06:42

I don't know how people are having issues with the controls, I have no problem at all.

Alternate 2 is where it's at, for single and multi.

hudson · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:00

For the its frustration more thna the control system being crap - when everyone started bleeting on about killzone 2 and how awesome it was going to be I immediately compared it to COD 4 - which in MHO is the best fps for consoles in thelast 2 years.

So i got my KZ 2 on saturday morning feeling ratehr excited - watche dthe awesome intro and then tried moving.

Oh dear - is it me or is my toon stuck in toffee and as agile as an elephant on ice wearing roller skates.

Aiming - close or near is a joke. Hit reg is dire - hands up those who have shot someone in the chest head neck to only be killed by an instant leg shot.

Movement in general in game is bad - its like slow but accelerated slowness... strange as it may seem.

Like i said frustration more than anything - i do hope that the developers take heed of peoples grips and give US the gamer the option of changing the control system - for a starter maybe a customiable joypad setup not just a bunch of pre-defined's.

Grumble grumble....

H

PS - I'm gonna stick with it though and see if i can get used to it but i think my chances are shot simply because i tried comparing it to COD4.

JUMPURS · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:41

I hope they don't make a forced change on the controls (i dont think they will)

I think most peoples problem is most likely down to no aim assist. It is different on COD4 you pull the trigger to aim and it zooms in and aims on the person for you(by design) in KZ2 you zoom in and that is all you do, no aim assist. I think that is where most folk will have their trouble with the shooting.

Margaret · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:46

JUMPURS said:
I hope they don't make a forced change on the controls (i dont think they will)

Me too, if you want easy mode aim assisted shooting please go back to Call of Duty 4, while Killzone certainly has some aim assist not once has my game actually shifted the camera round a bit to help me aim, unlike in Call of Duty. Ridiculous.

Adapt or give up, but if you do the latter then you will never master anything difficult which is your ultimate loss.

Streeteh · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:49

Thing is, i'm currently on the last level in KZ2 on the hardest non-unlockable difficulty. The AI is fierce, your health levels are pretty low and the action is pretty much constant. I'm not particularly good at console shooters, so it begs the question, if the controls are really that bad, how have i made it this far?

sc(+)pe · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:53

My main gripe with the KZ2 controlls is that small adjustments to aim are very hard to make. This could be down to bad deadzones on PS3 controllers, the game controls itself or a mixture of both. It was very tedious at points in game though on single player.

sc(+)pe · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:55

Streeteh said:
Thing is, i'm currently on the last level in KZ2 on the hardest non-unlockable difficulty. The AI is fierce, your health levels are pretty low and the action is pretty much constant. I'm not particularly good at console shooters, so it begs the question, if the controls are really that bad, how have i made it this far?

The controlls aren't game breaking, their just not the most refined IMO. Also the game is pretty easy and short in single player. So you might still be pretty bad at it and on the last level.

Joebob · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:55

Margaret said:
I don't know how people are having issues with the controls, I have no problem at all.

Alternate 2 is where it's at, for single and multi.

Completely agree. I use Alternate 2 and have it set so that you hold L1 to target rather than pressing once to zoom and once to cancel. Setup more like COD4 for me this way.

I did tweak the sensitivety a bit too but then found I had deadzones so set it back to default.

Wyrdo · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:55

Streeteh said:
Thing is, i'm currently on the last level in KZ2 on the hardest non-unlockable difficulty. The AI is fierce, your health levels are pretty low and the action is pretty much constant. I'm not particularly good at console shooters, so it begs the question, if the controls are really that bad, how have i made it this far?

Cheats.

Margaret · 2 Mar 2009 at 09:57

Joebob said:
Completely agree. I use Alternate 2 and have it set so that you hold L1 to target rather than pressing once to zoom and once to cancel. Setup more like COD4 for me this way.

I did tweak the sensitivety a bit too but then found I had deadzones so set it back to default.

Same setup over here, one thing I guess you gotta give to CoD4 are the good controls.

I think I have my sensitivity set to around +1 for the X and +2 for the Y, moving targets can be a bit hard to hit at times but improving, although that's more because I'm zoom in friendly at close range, way more accurate to just use crosshairs at a shorter distance I find.

Streeteh · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:00

Margaret said:
way more accurate to just use crosshairs at a shorter distance I find.

That was the turning point for me, i was obsessed with using crosshairs even at the closest range. Then, after playing online, i realized that at short range firing from the hip is far more effective as it allows you to better track your enemy.

Soulja · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:03

Streeteh said:
That was the turning point for me, i was obsessed with using crosshairs even at the closest range. Then, after playing online, i realized that at short range firing from the hip is far more effective as it allows you to better track your enemy.

This.

Also i like being close to the enemy so i can here people scream after i kill them, especially Wyrdo after i hit him in the face with my gun!

Tombo · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:15

hudson said:
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If you'd read up about the game you would have known about the acceleration, or played the demo.

Thesnipergecko · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:15

Give it time, try joining a server with less people in. You can use the filter to look for small servers.

At first I couldn't get into the multilayer. I found it hard to get kills and rack up some points.

After a few hours I was engrossed in the game. Now I'm loving it long time

T.

orderoftheflame · 2 Mar 2009 at 10:20

Margaret said:
Adapt or give up.

This.

I'm personally loving the controls even on default, though when I get back to playing it after work I may try some of the other layouts, seeing the praise their getting.

hudson · 2 Mar 2009 at 11:43

Perhaps I didnt make myself clear. I'm not a complete goon when it comes to fps or using my hands in general.. motor skills being the key role in this game.

What i'm aiming at (get it

) is the whole small adjustments are infuriating. A little left... little more.. too far

- as I said i will not be beaten by this game just keep on trying until i get it.

As for the "auto aim" i didnt realise COD4 did this - does it do it in multiplayer (which is all i play btw).?

H

djay · 2 Mar 2009 at 11:44

Got to say i think the game is excellent, really enjoying it however i don't enjoy the controls. Like most here they are laggy when moving to aim etc. Not tried the multi yet, will do when i finish single player.

Streeteh · 2 Mar 2009 at 11:53

hudson said:
As for the "auto aim" i didnt realise COD4 did this - does it do it in multiplayer (which is all i play btw).?

Yes, lots. COD4 has possibly the most auto aim out of any shooter i've ever seen.