Firstly, I wouldn't touch those lights linked by someone else (the x40). They're GU10 fittings and it's like fitting a standalone DVD player with every tv, because it's easy and cheap. GU10s are not great and you're mixing fittings with random manufacturers bulbs.
Buy a decent enclosed integrated LED fitting and you'll have a properly IP rated and fire rated fitting with better light quality and far better life expectancy.
Here's an example of what I am intending, although I would go for three sets of two, as previously mentioned.
Thinking is to have two spots that would cover the hob, as the only light source there will be from the hood, two in the middle, one angled over the sink for lighting that area, then two down the end.
Dining room will have three pendants/some sort of light over the table.
I've just realised we were chatting in your other thread RE: cabinets and Dekton.
Grabbed your schematic and put some rough positioning for x6 spots. I personally wouldn't bother with angled fittings as they don't really add anything unless your projecting towards say art on the wall.
Positioning them like this (all learned from Guy @Ecoled) is all about getting the light where it needs to be. Rows of lights on the ceiling is what builders and sparkies do who have no concept of lighting design.
Generally:
- Stick with warm white around 3000-3500k. It's for a house, not building a morgue or operating theatre (4000-6000k lights)
- Spots over edges of worktop (around 600mm off wall). Lights the work area.
- Don't put spots in the middle of the room or set the above worktop ones further back, as you'll get shadows cast by your body.
- Spots 600mm off wall will also work perfectly for 300m high level wall units.
- Then carry over the 300mm off a cabinet rule from above for any full height units (like you have on the left as you look at the schematic).
Some nice pendants in the dining area would be lovely. Possibly an freestanding uplight in a corner. Gives a nice warmer effect.
Cabinet runs will have LED strips in a diffused rail underneath and possibly on top, to flood the ceiling. Not sure what to go for as yet as I'm struggling to figure out if anything would work with a standard dimmer switch or if I need a separate control unit.
Very nice, they certainly work well.
I use Highline Lighting for all my LED strips. There's a huge array of strip types, colours (obvs stick with 3000-3500K) and they come with IP rated coatings. Plus there's a selection of cheaper IP20 PSUs or better rated sealed units (smaller). You can get dimmable PSUs for these lights.
https://www.hiline-lighting.co.uk/gb/
Strips, IP65
https://www.hiline-lighting.co.uk/g...d-strip-smd2835-144w-cri80-5060440711190.html
Dimmable PSUs
https://www.hiline-lighting.co.uk/gb/84-mains-dimmable
Then just add some LED profile cheaply. I found some Hafele stuff on ebay cheap.
I'm also going for a large ceiling wash with strips ontop of the cabinets, just ensure your plasterer and paint finish up top notch, as uplit strips will show off imperfections.
I'll be using Highlines 14.4W/m2 strips for uplighting and currently have a 5m strip sitting against the lower web of our exposed RSJ firing upwards. It gives a good effect and nearly gives enough light (along with task lighting), to not need spots anymore. This is in a 3.5m x 6m kitchen area. With the new set of units I'll put more strips up high so might eliminate the need for spots altogether.
I'm happy to chat via trust if you like
ah ok - zep1 on downlights.co seems to be £50 so zep6 must be expensive - ecoledlights practically want to harvest yout lifes history before they will tell you
wider beam than 35 degrees would be a nice to have, since surface mount gu10's can be >100 degrees. (but they're not high cri)
so to get the recommended kitchen 80Candela would need fewer bulbs.
Ignore the web prices completely, if they were that much then i wouldn't have gone near them.
Need to call them up and speak to Guy @ Ecoled and just say you saw him on Pistonheads forum (He's called E36Guy on there). Then you'll get them at the realistic prices.
Like I said before, I wouldn't bother with angled spots and just grab some ZEP1 darklights as they're the same price as regular ZEP1.
I've used ZEP6 Eyeconic (angled) above some artwork in the lounge and they give a good effect, but a fixed ZEP6 darklight gives a similar effect if cited closer to the wall (around 200m) so the angle of the light just starts at the top of the picture frame.
