Kitchen plaster…. Anyone who can help?

[Tr1p]

Evening,

I’ve recently started to take my kitchen apart in a newly purchased house because it was terrible.

The space isn’t big, roughly 2.6m long x 1.7 width.

The whole kitchen was tiled, of which someone had kindly tiled the top layer over the old layer making two sets of tiles.

The plaster isn’t great though, it is crumbling, cracked and blown (mainly around the over area). Looking at what people would be doing to repair or replace this?

Me and my partner would be tackling it ourselves, after research our options come back to plastering it all again, taking it back to bare brick and putting insulated plasterboard up or batoning it out and putting insulated plasterboard up.

Just to highlight we have never done any plastering of any sort.

What would you all suggest?

 

[200sols]

If you're re tiling I'd just overboard with tile boards like marmox, they act as insulation as well. Mechanically fixed they will be perfect.

 

[Tr1p]

If you're re tiling I'd just overboard with tile boards like marmox, they act as insulation as well. Mechanically fixed they will be perfect.

We will be re tiling, we did want to paint but think to get the finish required would be a lot of work.

 

[Buffman]

Knock it all off if it's blown then get a plasterer in. They can dot and dab plasterboard or insulated board in then skim it.

 

[platypus]

Yep knock it all off and start again. Plastering is really easy it just takes a bit of time. You’re less likely to get a mirror finish yourself but it really isn’t a hard job to diy.

 

[GarethSouthgate]

Plastering is really easy it just takes a bit of time.

Never heard it called really easy before.

 

[Participant]

Never heard it called really easy before.

Agreed, it's definitely not easy unless you are some sort of plastering savant.

You can get acceptable results but have to know the process very well to get a very flat wall without imperfections.

I always use Extra Time as it just goes off too quickly for my talent level.

 

[GarethSouthgate]

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[GarethSouthgate]

We will be re tiling, we did want to paint but think to get the finish required would be a lot of work.

If you want to paint then just get it plastered. Not the cheapest option but it will allow you to paint and tile the bits you want. It also means you can redecorate easier in the future just by changing the paint colour.

 

[shroomz]

If it's loose knock it off, if it's sound then there's products that will fill the bits you do need to knock off.

Are you getting someone in or doing it yourself?

I've got a 1960s house with wonky walls. Worth considering if you'd rather the finish be more flat or blend in. I've had dot-and-dab boards put in for a log burner and it was a decent job but stands out against the rest of the plaster that is not very even.

I did about a third of a room myself earlier this year that I chose to plaster traditionally, I'm happier with that finish but it did take days of work as a beginner to learn. I echo the extra time additive, will use that next time I do some plastering too.

 

[platypus]

Never heard it called really easy before.

It is really easy though if you just take some time. Properly preparing the wall with pva is a great tip, then just Clean water and mixing well is key, then just getting it into the walls top to bottom then cross trowelling with a slightly damp plastering trowel will get decent results in most cases.

What’s tough is the amazing eggshell finish but it’s not necessary if diying as you can just sand the wall down to prep it for painting. If tiling though you don’t even need a top finish.

Here’s a bit of blown plaster I repaired this weekend:

It’ll be patch sanded once it’s dried out, then the rest of the wall stripped then painted. Not great but a decent result. And I’m certainly no expert.

 

[200sols]

If tiling though you don’t even need a top finish.

If tiling you don't want to plaster.

 

[platypus]

If tiling you don't want to plaster.

Depends how deep a repair is needed, might need to base/bonding coat it first.

 

[200sols]

Depends how deep a repair is needed, might need to base/bonding coat it first.

Nah, just overboard. Plaster is the worst thing to tile on, very low weight limits.

 

[Rob_B]

I'd be tempted to whack some plasterboard over the top, patch the joins and tile on that. Ther board will hold all of the lovely crumbly-ness behind it

 

[platypus]

If tiling you don't want to plaster.

Never had an issue with a properly prepared wall but you’re probably right, certainly makes it much quicker to use board!

 

[Participant]

It is really easy though if you just take some time. Properly preparing the wall with pva is a great tip, then just Clean water and mixing well is key, then just getting it into the walls top to bottom then cross trowelling with a slightly damp plastering trowel will get decent results in most cases.

What’s tough is the amazing eggshell finish but it’s not necessary if diying as you can just sand the wall down to prep it for painting. If tiling though you don’t even need a top finish.

Here’s a bit of blown plaster I repaired this weekend:

It’ll be patch sanded once it’s dried out, then the rest of the wall stripped then painted. Not great but a decent result. And I’m certainly no expert.

Very good, but if that's your illustration of why plastering is easy, that's just a small part of the job - you've just put bonding in a hole there. Skimming with multi finish and getting a quality result (without having to sand) is the hard part.

You can't say plastering is easy then admit you have to sand it

 

[Tr1p]

Might be a stupid question but if I was to Marmox boards over the top of the bad plaster, I would dot and dab this onto the wall and then mechanically screw it in.

Would this be sufficient to hold the weight of kitchen cabinets? I’m guessing they would be attached by going through the marmox, bad plaster and into the wall behind?

It’s all completely new to me.

 

[Rob_B]

You'd need to go into the wall for security, so buy some looooong screws

 

[platypus]

You can't say plastering is easy then admit you have to sand it

Read what I said? Repairing blown plaster is an easy cheap job for a diyer. Getting a great finish requires skill and is not.

Anyway not sure this is really helping the op!