Kodi ban in UK

longplay · 17 Aug 2017 at 07:35

Disney are going to be taking their content onto their own service and Apple have just announced their own content fund -- presumably available only through Apply TV. Add to that Netflix not renewing contracts in favour of in-house content and we have yet-more fragmentation.

If there isn't an easy, in one place solution, they're just going to increase piracy -- no one's going to subscribe to every service.

Martini1991 · 17 Aug 2017 at 07:44

longplay said:
Disney are going to be taking their content onto their own service and Apple have just announced their own content fund -- presumably available only through Apply TV. Add to that Netflix not renewing contracts in favour of in-house content and we have yet-more fragmentation.

If there isn't an easy, in one place solution, they're just going to increase piracy -- no one's going to subscribe to every service.

Exactly.
The way people want to watch stuff has changed, the only actual "solution" to watch the way people want is piracy. Currently I just buy the blu-rays of stuff I want to watch where applicable, but it's not the perfect solution.

MookJong · 17 Aug 2017 at 11:40

The only way I see it working is microtransactions where you sign up to Netflix / HBO / Prime etc and you are charged per episode or series directly. This fractured system where you have to subscribe to all services just to get hold of one program you like the look of just leads people to Piracy.

I would be happy to pay 25p per episode for programs and just be charged in the background. It will never stop others from wanting to pay nothing but if you can get even one third of the millions pirating GOT to pay a couple of quid for each season that is a fair whack of money back in the pocket of HBO.

TheVoice · 17 Aug 2017 at 15:32

longplay said:
If there isn't an easy, in one place solution, they're just going to increase piracy -- no one's going to subscribe to every service.

This is what people said they wanted though; in the US people were sick of cable companies, and here people were sick of Sky getting all the sports, movies, TV shows etc. I'd love to know what they realistically thought was going to happen.

holdin09 · 19 Aug 2017 at 14:05

There will be a app or platform that brings all the different services together, won't be easy to do but someone will do it. I hate piracy the few times I have tried it I was put off by the lack of quality of what I wanted to watch so I just wait till I can watch it legally. I understand people sick of sky/BT but if you pay full price for them more fool you I have had full sky package for 3 year and haven't paid more than £40 a month.

HungryHippos · 19 Aug 2017 at 18:33

For streaming stuff Netflix is still the best thing out at the moment in my opinion.

They need to really consider getting the content creators together and all of them chipping in to one central platform.

Then they could share the running costs out of the subscriptions, and pay out from profits based on views/popularity.

This de-centralised system is even worse than the PC gaming market, which has a few bigger players. Most of us prefer Steam, but I also have some games on Blizzard's battle.net, some on Origin, some on GOG.

For music I have Spotify and it's got pretty much everything. If I had Apple Music or Google Music I would have pretty much everything as well.

For TV/Movies there just isn't the same kind of thing, and they are just splintering off different services trying to get their own piece of the market, but people don't want to have Sky TV, Now TV, Netflix, Amazon, this new Apple thing, this new Disney thing, they want one place to watch stuff from, ideally ad-free, with a reasonable subscription cost.

holdin09 · 19 Aug 2017 at 18:45

HungryHippos said:
For streaming stuff Netflix is still the best thing out at the moment in my opinion.

They need to really consider getting the content creators together and all of them chipping in to one central platform.

Then they could share the running costs out of the subscriptions, and pay out from profits based on views/popularity.

This de-centralised system is even worse than the PC gaming market, which has a few bigger players. Most of us prefer Steam, but I also have some games on Blizzard's battle.net, some on Origin, some on GOG.

For music I have Spotify and it's got pretty much everything. If I had Apple Music or Google Music I would have pretty much everything as well.

For TV/Movies there just isn't the same kind of thing, and they are just splintering off different services trying to get their own piece of the market, but people don't want to have Sky TV, Now TV, Netflix, Amazon, this new Apple thing, this new Disney thing, they want one place to watch stuff from, ideally ad-free, with a reasonable subscription cost.

Agree, and it will happen as the benefits will out weigh the downside of getting nothing. As I run my own site selling computers, I understand the frustration of someone taking something that they haven't paid for and it's not right.

TallPaul1878 · 19 Aug 2017 at 18:59

Can anyone clarify the legality of subscribing to a US based service through the use of a VPN.

In the USA there is a football streaming service called fubo.tv . It costs $35 a month on a rolling contract you can cancel when you want to.

So if I set a vpn to USA and subscribe to a legit service is that okay?

I know that Netflix are now working to stop people using vpn to get access to the American library

JammieR · 23 Aug 2017 at 15:21

TallPaul1878 said:
Can anyone clarify the legality of subscribing to a US based service through the use of a VPN.

In the USA there is a football streaming service called fubo.tv . It costs $35 a month on a rolling contract you can cancel when you want to.

So if I set a vpn to USA and subscribe to a legit service is that okay?

I know that Netflix are now working to stop people using vpn to get access to the American library

Yes you are right. Netflix is confronting the vpn user to access content. But other services like kodi, popcorn time etc are not. What are they doing is writing blog on how illegal it is to unblock Geo restriction or access blocked content. But people are doing it and nothing is happening to them.
I travel a lot on business trip, last time i went to Singapore for a research project(Company). I bought the best Singapore vpn service available in the market changed my IP to UK and watched Sherlock Season on popcorn time. It was completely fine and no ones bats an eye.

This video will clarify your concerns. Thank you :cool:

Glaucus · 23 Aug 2017 at 17:47

JammieR said:
What are they doing is writing blog on how illegal it is to unblock Geo restriction or access blocked content.

Not unless the law has changed recently it's perfectly legal. It is however against their t&C's and they can block you or close your account.

Scam · 23 Aug 2017 at 18:14

JammieR said:
This video will clarify your concerns. Thank you

TallPaul1878 said:
So if I set a vpn to USA and subscribe to a legit service is that okay?

If it was ok, why do you think Netflix etc. have to spend so much time/money/effort stopping people from doing it? At the end of the day Netflix buy the rights to shows for specific countries. If you are outside of that country then you are breaking the law, and making Netflix break their contract with the licensor. They don't do this stuff for the fun of it. If they can't supply you with specific content in a specific country it's because they don't own the rights to it in that country and therefore cannot legally show it to you. The only reason people aren't getting put in jail is because it's hard to trace and prosecute end-users doing it.

Glaucus · 23 Aug 2017 at 20:19

Scam said:
If it was ok, why do you think Netflix etc. have to spend so much time/money/effort stopping people from doing it? At the end of the day Netflix buy the rights to shows for specific countries. If you are outside of that country then you are breaking the law, and making Netflix break their contract with the licensor. They don't do this stuff for the fun of it. If they can't supply you with specific content in a specific country it's because they don't own the rights to it in that country and therefore cannot legally show it to you. The only reason people aren't getting put in jail is because it's hard to trace and prosecute end-users doing it.

what utter nonsense, the reason people aren't being put in jail is because it is not braking the law, you are simply braking their t&cs. I suppose they could bring a civil case against you in the uk, but that wouldn't get far at all. which leaves them the option of keeping their contracts happy by actively blocking you them self.