Koi in planes.

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This is gonna sound really weird, but can you take a koi, or any small fish, in a plane? Provided you have a nice small tank to carry it that won't spill. Are there actually any laws prohobiting such a thing? I don't want to come back from the summer and find my goldfish dead :(
 
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You can't take live animals on a plane. You would have to contact the airline and they'd make arrangements for the tank etc. And charge you a fortune for the benefit. Taking our dog on a 4 hour flight was going to cost us several thousand, and that was on top of quarantine when we got there!
 
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pyro said:
Why the hell not man, if someone wants to bring their cats and dogs onboard why can't I take my fishy? :(
Errr most logical thing is to ask a friend or family member to look after it... hell even a neighbour.....
 
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no your wrong you can transport fish.

i no someone who flys to japan every year to buy 25k plus koi fish and he ships them over to england,

they freeze the fish in highly oxygenated ice and when the fish gets to said destination the block of ice its in is put in a body of room temperature water and left to thaw out naturally.

but theres no garuntee the fish will survive though, but it usually does.

i wouldnt no how you would go about getting the ice frozen in the highly oxygenated ice though.
 
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Phate said:
they freeze the fish in highly oxygenated ice and when the fish gets to said destination the block of ice its in is put in a body of room temperature water and left to thaw out naturally.

Can they do that to people? :D
 
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they got to be checked from all possible viruses and things so that things dont spread.

our uncle used to live in fiji island but he died and his family had to move back to japan. they had a cat which they bought back and costed them about 6000 pounds ( in fiji money) . And what ever happend to it its not happy now and has a phobia of human.
 
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I know the idea of having a goldfish in a plane is silly, but poor fishy has been through a lot and I don't want to just leave him to die. I'v had him for a year and half now! :(
 
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Phate said:
no your wrong you can transport fish.

i no someone who flys to japan every year to buy 25k plus koi fish and he ships them over to england,

they freeze the fish in highly oxygenated ice and when the fish gets to said destination the block of ice its in is put in a body of room temperature water and left to thaw out naturally.

but theres no garuntee the fish will survive though, but it usually does.

i wouldnt no how you would go about getting the ice frozen in the highly oxygenated ice though.

When water is frozen it expands destroying all the cell membranes in any animals body, there is no way anything could survive. The fish would die from the temperature before they were frozen anyway.
 
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Energize said:
When water is frozen it expands destroying all the cell membranes in any animals body, there is no way anything could survive. The fish would die from the temperature before they were frozen anyway.
Not necessarily. a lot of animals have Freeze Tolerance due to specialized proteins, stored glucose, and perhaps stored urea. This combination prevent intracellular freezing and dehydration.

Google freeze tolerant animals if you don't believe me.
 
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Aye you can't totally freeze them, however you can cool fish to quite low temperatures 1-10c to severely reduce their metabolic rate thereby reducing the stress of travel. :)
 
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pyro said:
I know the idea of having a goldfish in a plane is silly, but poor fishy has been through a lot and I don't want to just leave him to die. I'v had him for a year and half now! :(

Hehe i can sympathise. I had 1 cat fish (the tiny ones, pretty boring fish) and 2 wierd big headed things. The big headed ones died due to my leaving them for 10 days. Then i got a bit guilty and got Mr.Catfish some new big headed buddies. But they died too. Too much amonia in the water apparently (took some water for a test)..
Then i basically left Mr.Catfish in the tank for a month and fed him occasionally. Then it got too smelly so we moved him into a small bowl while we cleaned the tank. He ended up living in the bowl for about 3 weeks, in which time the water turned yellow and started to really smell (you couldnt see 2 inches into the bowl). So eventually i was so riddled with guilt that i bought him a nice big tank and 3 more catfishies and some more big headed ones. Oh and some tinytiny ones.
But again Mr catfish didnt have a great time.. I was cleaning the toy things from the old fish bowl to go into the new one under the hot water tap... And then i kinda tried to pour Mr.Catfishes smelly water into the sink, but he went in with it and sort of wriggled around under the steaming tap for a second before i put the cold water on and tried to get him out. By the time i got him out he was rigid :(, but i didnt give up hope!. I put him in the new tank and he sort of swam a bit and then floated off. Over the next few days he moved more and more, and to this day he's been fine. The hardest fish i've ever known.

Now i feed them all daily and swap 1/3 of the water every fortnight. I figure such a persistant fish deserves to live to a fine old fishy age.
 
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