Korean Grand Prix 2010, Korean International Circuit - Race 17/19

farmer · 21 Oct 2010 at 20:43

Could be very interesting if a mclaren manages to get a jump on a red bull on the first straight, I can see the bull's struggling to get past them all the way through the twisty bit, and if they do sneak past, then the mclaren will be back on the arse of it on the 3 straights!

gord · 21 Oct 2010 at 22:37

farmer said:
Could be very interesting if a mclaren manages to get a jump on a red bull on the first straight, I can see the bull's struggling to get past them all the way through the twisty bit, and if they do sneak past, then the mclaren will be back on the arse of it on the 3 straights!

The RB will just crash into the back of the McLaren, take it out and go on to get on the podium... on fire... with the drivers legs sticking out the front powering the car.. just like Fred.

deko · 22 Oct 2010 at 03:09

My quick summary of FP1, Track is like an ice rink but looks like it's rubbering in quickly, slightly bumpy, very dusty, will clean up quickly though. Only thing is, absolutely terrible camera coverage all the way round the track, can't see anything most of the time.

Also, pit exit seems very dodgy, entrance even more so. The entrance is on the racing line of a blind flat out bend, it's asking for something to happen, and the exit spits the cars straight onto the exit of T1, so cars coming into T1 at normal speed can't see the cars coming out of the pits until they're right in front of them, and obviously cant slow any more than they already are halfway through braking/a corner.

SPARC · 22 Oct 2010 at 06:26

Been struggling to sleep all night thanks to the IDIOTS upstairs, so I've finally given up and started watching FP2.

Even though I feel like death I'm still loling at that pit entrance.

Nice to see Hamitlon top the time sheet earlier this morning. Made me feel a little better.

deuse · 22 Oct 2010 at 08:14

Great post as normal Acid

I caught the last 15 min of P2(just got in from work) and it looks like anyone's race on sunday.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Oct 2010 at 10:04

Cheers for the post Acid

- should be a good weekend.

Nismo · 22 Oct 2010 at 10:11

You do realise you've been spelling "Qualifying" wrong since about race 3?

Copy and paste for the win I guess

deuse · 22 Oct 2010 at 11:06

Nismo said:
You do realise you've been spelling "Qualifying" wrong since about race 3?

Copy and paste for the win I guess

GD is >>>>> way

Duke · 22 Oct 2010 at 12:31

Watched the two sessions this morning. The track is looking much quicker than at the start, so should be okay for Sunday. There is still a lot of dust and dirt being kicked up off track though.

Not sure on the pit entrance and exit.

Duke · 22 Oct 2010 at 12:33

The Hispania Racing team has been fined $5,000 for an incident involving Sakon Yamamoto during practice for the Korean Grand Prix.

The Japanese driver was released from his garage with a tyre warmer still attached to the car, and a team personnel entered the pit exit to recover the warmer, breaching articles 23.1(j), 30.7 and 30.9 of the sporting regulations.

lol

rypt · 22 Oct 2010 at 13:08

deko said:
Also, pit exit seems very dodgy, entrance even more so. The entrance is on the racing line of a blind flat out bend, it's asking for something to happen, and the exit spits the cars straight onto the exit of T1, so cars coming into T1 at normal speed can't see the cars coming out of the pits until they're right in front of them, and obviously cant slow any more than they already are halfway through braking/a corner.

Good, we have something nice and challenging for the drivers to deal with ... that can only be a good thing

Haiku · 22 Oct 2010 at 13:09

Have to agree that the final turn/pit entry area looks a bit dicey. Can see there being an issue or two there during qualifying or the race.

utajoker · 22 Oct 2010 at 15:25

no times for p1 and p2 yet?

Duke · 22 Oct 2010 at 15:27

Practice 1 times

Code:

[b]Pos  Driver              Team                  Time       Gap        Laps[/b]
 1.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m40.887s             15
 2.  Robert Kubica       Renault               1m40.968s  + 0.081s   18
 3.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m41.152s  + 0.265s   21
 4.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m41.371s  + 0.484s   18
 5.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m41.940s  + 1.053s   16
 6.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m42.022s  + 1.135s   25
 7.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m42.202s  + 1.315s   23
 8.  Nick Heidfeld       Sauber-Ferrari        1m42.293s  + 1.406s   18
 9.  Nico Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth     1m42.678s  + 1.791s   21
10.  Rubens Barrichello  Williams-Cosworth     1m42.883s  + 1.996s   23
11.  Vitaly Petrov       Renault               1m42.896s  + 2.009s   22
12.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m43.054s  + 2.167s   25
13.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m43.309s  + 2.422s   20
14.  Adrian Sutil        Force India-Mercedes  1m43.602s  + 2.715s   18
15.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m43.928s  + 3.041s   21
16.  Sebastien Buemi     Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m43.940s  + 3.053s   23
17.  Vitantonio Liuzzi   Force India-Mercedes  1m44.887s  + 4.000s   21
18.  Jaime Alguersuari   Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m45.141s  + 4.254s   26
19.  Timo Glock          Virgin-Cosworth       1m45.588s  + 4.701s   20
20.  Jerome D'Ambrosio   Virgin-Cosworth       1m46.613s  + 5.726s   17
21.  Heikki Kovalainen   Lotus-Cosworth        1m47.115s  + 6.228s   22
22.  Sakon Yamamoto      Hispania-Cosworth     1m50.347s  + 9.460s   29
23.  Bruno Senna         Hispania-Cosworth     1m50.821s  + 9.934s   15
24.  Jarno Trulli        Lotus-Cosworth        1m51.701s  + 10.814s  11

Practice 2 times

Code:

[b]Pos  Driver         Team                     Time              Laps[/b]
 1.  Webber         Red Bull-Renault        1:37.942            23
 2.  Alonso         Ferrari                 1:38.132  + 0.190   30
 3.  Hamilton       McLaren-Mercedes        1:38.279  + 0.337   29
 4.  Kubica         Renault                 1:38.718  + 0.776   29
 5.  Button         McLaren-Mercedes        1:38.726  + 0.784   19
 6.  Massa          Ferrari                 1:38.820  + 0.878   32
 7.  Vettel         Red Bull-Renault        1:39.204  + 1.262   22
 8.  Petrov         Renault                 1:39.267  + 1.325   28
 9.  Rosberg        Mercedes                1:39.268  + 1.326   29
10.  Kobayashi      Sauber-Ferrari          1:39.564  + 1.622   26
11.  Heidfeld       Sauber-Ferrari          1:39.588  + 1.646   25
12.  Schumacher     Mercedes                1:39.598  + 1.656   26
13.  Barrichello    Williams-Cosworth       1:39.812  + 1.870   35
14.  Liuzzi         Force India-Mercedes    1:39.881  + 1.939   27
15.  Sutil          Force India-Mercedes    1:39.971  + 2.029   22
16.  Hulkenberg     Williams-Cosworth       1:40.478  + 2.536   30
17.  Alguersuari    Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1:40.578  + 2.636   29
18.  Buemi          Toro Rosso-Ferrari      1:40.896  + 2.954   32
19.  Kovalainen     Lotus-Cosworth          1:42.773  + 4.831   29
20.  Trulli         Lotus-Cosworth          1:42.801  + 4.859   19
21.  Glock          Virgin-Cosworth         1:43.115  + 5.173   26
22.  di Grassi      Virgin-Cosworth         1:44.039  + 6.097   29
23.  Yamamoto       HRT-Cosworth            1:45.166  + 7.224   19
24.  Senna          HRT-Cosworth            1:46.649  + 8.707    3

Tweaks to be made to the track overnight - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87625

Korean Grand Prix organisers are making minor modifications to the new Formula 1 track on Friday night following complaints from drivers about potential trouble spots on the new Yeongam circuit.

Although drivers were mostly impressed with the layout of the new Korean track, they requested some changes be made to the venue following Friday's first practice sessions.

Following discussions with FIA race director Charlie Whiting at Friday night's drivers' briefing, it was agreed that tweaks be made to two areas in particular - the controversial Turn 16 left-hander and the final Turn 18 apex.

With the cars having bottomed out a lot at the Turn 16 apex, with the kerb lower than the track itself, race organisers are now re-profiling the kerb to make it higher. This should prevent drivers from being encouraged to cut the corner too much.

Work is also being done to re-profile the wall on the exit of Turn 16. The original design had the wall filtering in close to the edge of the track on the right hand side exit of the curve, and that has now been moved back so it runs parallel to the track.

Furthermore, the organisers are building a new apex kerb at the final Turn 18 apex, after drivers kept cutting the corner during free practice - which dragged dirt and stones onto the circuit.

The new kerb will be made lower than the apex of the turn, which will act as a deterrent so drivers do not cut the corner. This should also make the final Turn 17 much more of a kink, with drivers having to be more careful as they exit the long right-hander.

The FIA has also agreed that the track surface will be extensively cleaned overnight to try and get rid of the dust that was dragged onto the track during the free practice sessions.

Some tweaks will also be made to the pitlane entry, which was a concern for the drivers.

CaptainRAVE · 22 Oct 2010 at 15:49

So who is getting up early this weekend? I know I will be!

pingwing · 22 Oct 2010 at 15:49

Well first gp in a while I get pretty much the whole weekend to enjoy it! Im impressed with the track so far, though that's pretty much entirely for the "street circuit" feel that's been mentioned a fair bit. Got to say the drivers just need to man up about the pit in and out really. They look a little tight (not as bad as Singapore in the first season with the entry) but they need things to keep them on their toes anyway!

Got a feeling this track will be decided on the saftey car though, bets are on who's punted into the walls first! (im going for webber gets vettel into one with failed overtake from vettel again)

Ceryndrion · 22 Oct 2010 at 15:55

Looks as though a number of drivers have expressed serious concerns about the pit entrance/exits, worried that they could well lead to a serious accident..

Bernie of course is full of his usual "wow, looksee, told you it'd be fine... quite whineing"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9118137.stm

deko · 22 Oct 2010 at 16:13

rypt said:
Good, we have something nice and challenging for the drivers to deal with ... that can only be a good thing

I'm all for the track being challenging, but the entrance is simply dangerous.

Duke · 22 Oct 2010 at 16:17

CaptainRAVE said:
So who is getting up early this weekend? I know I will be!

Of course

At least it isn't the middle of the night like 3am or something.

Duke · 22 Oct 2010 at 16:49

Speed trap results from FP1 and 2

Code:

[b]Pos 	No 	Driver 			Time of Day 	Speed[/b]
1 	11 	Robert Kubica 		11:27:26 	316.6
2 	1 	Jenson Button 		11:26:07 	316.5
3 	2 	Lewis Hamilton 		11:29:26 	315.1
4 	12 	Vitaly Petrov 		10:51:26 	314.4
5 	4 	Nico Rosberg 		11:09:11 	313.7
6 	3 	Michael Schumacher 	11:10:53 	313.6
7 	15 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	11:29:50 	313.3
8 	14 	Adrian Sutil 		11:27:41 	312.6
9 	21 	Bruno Senna 		10:47:40 	308.1
10 	20 	Sakon Yamamoto 		10:52:30 	308.1
11 	22 	Nick Heidfeld 		11:23:57 	307.9
12 	5 	Sebastian Vettel 	11:28:00 	307.3
13 	16 	Sebastien Buemi 	10:42:29 	306.8
14 	17 	Jaime Alguersuari 	11:07:15 	306.1
15 	6 	Mark Webber 		11:29:54 	305.7
16 	8 	Fernando Alonso 	11:28:24 	305.0
17 	25 	Jerome d'Ambrosio 	10:53:19 	304.9
18 	23 	Kamui Kobayashi 	11:04:26 	304.3
19 	24 	Timo Glock 		11:20:31 	304.2
20 	19 	Heikki Kovalainen 	11:00:50 	303.6
21 	9 	Rubens Barrichello 	11:08:59 	303.4
22 	10 	Nico Hulkenberg 	11:10:35 	303.2
23 	18 	Jarno Trulli 		10:40:49 	301.3
24 	7 	Felipe Massa 		10:45:15 	297.4

Code:

[b]Pos 	No 	Driver 			Time of Day 	Speed[/b]
1 	3 	Michael Schumacher 	14:36:19 	316.9
2 	14 	Adrian Sutil 		15:00:00 	316.7
3 	11 	Robert Kubica 		14:40:52 	316.3
4 	15 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	14:59:03 	316.3
5 	12 	Vitaly Petrov 		14:55:42 	316.1
6 	1 	Jenson Button 		14:40:45 	315.8
7 	2 	Lewis Hamilton 		14:40:26 	314.5
8 	4 	Nico Rosberg 		14:59:32 	314.0
9 	22 	Nick Heidfeld 		15:19:32 	309.4
10 	10 	Nico Hulkenberg 	14:08:46 	308.4
11 	20 	Sakon Yamamoto 		14:22:51 	308.1
12 	5 	Sebastian Vettel 	14:43:51 	307.9
13 	7 	Felipe Massa 		15:01:20 	307.8
14 	6 	Mark Webber 		14:20:30 	307.6
15 	17 	Jaime Alguersuari 	14:05:57 	307.4
16 	8 	Fernando Alonso 	15:01:53 	307.4
17 	9 	Rubens Barrichello 	15:14:58 	307.0
18 	25 	Lucas di Grassi 	15:13:18 	306.5
19 	16 	Sebastien Buemi 	14:36:02 	305.9
20 	23 	Kamui Kobayashi 	15:20:11 	305.8
21 	21 	Bruno Senna 		15:30:51 	305.2
22 	24 	Timo Glock 		14:34:35 	304.7
23 	19 	Heikki Kovalainen 	14:06:36 	303.0
24 	18 	Jarno Trulli 		15:29:39 	302.0