Korean Grand Prix 2013, Yeongam - Race 14/19

Fact of the day: the two Mexican drivers in F1 started their single seater careers in the US. Sergio Perez finished 11th in the 2004 Formula Dodge championship, and Esteban Gutierrez was runner-up in the 2007 Formula BMW series.
 
Just finished watching, did a lot of fast forwarding. Hami and Alonso showing how to race properly, good bit of TV.

Hulk as i have said a million times before, brilliant! He needs a proper seat now.

Well done to RG aswell.

EDIT: o and also something else that i have said a million times before, get Di Crapster out, he is utterly poo. Always has been.
 
Pic, Bianchi and Chilton get reprimands.

Pic and Bianchi get 10 place grid penalties due to receiving their 3rd reprimand.

I'm assuming that's for speeding under the safety car when they were allowed to unlap themselves.
 
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Ok, Pic and Bianchi got reprimands for failing to slow sufficiently under yellows.

Chilton and Van Der Garde got reprimands for going too fast under the safety car.

*sigh*
 
THe speed limit when cars unlap themselves is hilariously stupid because they are only allowed to do this AFTER the crap on track is cleaned up so there is no reason for Marshalls to be on the track, why the speed limit, absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the speed limit and have waved yellows only on the effected part of the track if they really want to be uptight about it, or like anyone with a brain has said have everyone pull out down a straight, slow down and go to the back of the track then wipe add a lap to their lap counters... unlapped in 10 seconds....

Unbelievable how they get this basic stuff so wrong it kills races.

There was some racing but it was few and far between and the two best bits, Alonso/Hamilton and the Massa/Maldonado/3 others battle were all safety car induced making it far less real IMHO. Without the safety car 99% of the rest would have been a train, instead it was 97%.

The one thing I really don't agree on is how well Hulkenberg did, he wasn't bad at all but he was slow. It was just a slow car that was fast in the only two straights you can overtake on. Slow corners but great traction gave him an almost unpassable car. He certainly wasn't crap but I don't think saying he was brilliant today is remotely accurate. I do think he's one of the lower down the grid drivers who has shown he should really be getting a chance in a better car though and I'd like to see him get a chance in a good car. His qualifying lately has been very very good.

We have to have different tyres, no one who watches, or races in the sport likes the tyres. Hamilton in a car from 5-10 years ago would have put his car up the inside at the end of the straight and braked like a maniac to try and pass him, but on these tyres that would have ruined his race even if he had passed him, it would have burned the tyres up too much. Same thing there are other corners he could maybe go offline faster on a tight turn but it would have every time put too much temp into that front right and his race would have ended up terrible on top of the marbles off line that would have lost him grip.

Alonso said it, it's basically not fun, it's not really fun watching a bunch of drivers circling a track in an unpassable train where they don't dare do anything interesting for fear of tyres and aren't having fun because they aren't pushing.

I mean the ease in which Vettel just went 2 seconds faster whenever he needed to was a joke, the car has again developed throughout the year and is now utterly unmatched.

It would be far more interesting to see the guys behind actually fighting and Vettel 60 seconds ahead and actually putting moves on backmarkers and getting involved. If everyone was burning around we'd get more lapping, we'd get more engine/gearbox/other failures, the season would actually be far less predictable, the top drivers would make far more mistakes when on the limit rather than 10% under it, it would simply be better racing. Seeing Hamilton risk a dangerous overtake, lock up, miss the corner, lose 3 places but STILL have the tyres to come back at them.
 
drunkenmaster said:
We have to have different tyres, no one who watches, or races in the sport likes the tyres. Hamilton in a car from 5-10 years ago would have put his car up the inside at the end of the straight and braked like a maniac to try and pass him, but on these tyres that would have ruined his race even if he had passed him, it would have burned the tyres up too much. Same thing there are other corners he could maybe go offline faster on a tight turn but it would have every time put too much temp into that front right and his race would have ended up terrible on top of the marbles off line that would have lost him grip.

Alonso said it, it's basically not fun, it's not really fun watching a bunch of drivers circling a track in an unpassable train where they don't dare do anything interesting for fear of tyres and aren't having fun because they aren't pushing.

I mean the ease in which Vettel just went 2 seconds faster whenever he needed to was a joke, the car has again developed throughout the year and is now utterly unmatched.

It would be far more interesting to see the guys behind actually fighting and Vettel 60 seconds ahead and actually putting moves on backmarkers and getting involved. If everyone was burning around we'd get more lapping, we'd get more engine/gearbox/other failures, the season would actually be far less predictable, the top drivers would make far more mistakes when on the limit rather than 10% under it, it would simply be better racing. Seeing Hamilton risk a dangerous overtake, lock up, miss the corner, lose 3 places but STILL have the tyres to come back at them.
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Spot on, Webber is the driver really giving an insite into this. Its not racing, its tyre management 85% of the race. Not fun, not sportsman like. tyres that last 10-15 laps are not good for the sport. Yes tyres should degrade over time but not to the extent we see in the period of time.

I do hope next year really shakes it all up
 
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