Kraft and Unilever

[Arazi]

I am not sure if anyone else has thought this but Kraft throw in a bid to by out Unilever, Unilever share price jumps up, 3 days later Kraft pull out.

Now who is making profit here, something doesn't smell right with this, Unilever shares went from ~ $42 to ~ $49.

It may not sound a lot but we are talking about a company worth over $150 Billion.

Do any watchdog kind of organisations look at this kind of dealing. It all started Friday and was over with this morning.

Boring yes, thoughts?

 

[Rroff]

Happens a fair bit to be frank.

 

[rexehuk]

It's what insider lists are for.

Someone probably did make money, but not hard to say who bought shares between those dates in substantial quantities and do investigation.

 

[Raymond Lin]

I am not sure if anyone else has thought this but Kraft throw in a bid to by out Unilever, Unilever share price jumps up, 3 days later Kraft pull out.

Now who is making profit here, something doesn't smell right with this, Unilever shares went from ~ $42 to ~ $49.

It may not sound a lot but we are talking about a company worth over $150 Billion.

Do any watchdog kind of organisations look at this kind of dealing. It all started Friday and was over with this morning.

Boring yes, thoughts?

I bet you would be very supportive if Trump is a shareholder of Unilever right?

 

[Uther]

I bet you would be very supportive if Trump is a shareholder of Unilever right?

Not everything is about an American President.

And on topic, I'm sure someone somewhere made an absolute killing.Does this sort of thing actually get investigated?

 

[Raymond Lin]

Not everything is about an American President.

Whoosh....

Unless you didn't know, for example, Trump owns shares in the company that benefits most from the Dakota pipeline project, OP is a Trump supporter, he hasn't criticise Trump on a direct policy that makes him rich. Anyone else would be put in jail for insider trading.

If he were against cooperation making money for shares going up (something that is out of their control), he should be criticising Trump getting rich for something he actually has control right?...my point?

OP's hypocrisy.

 

[Arazi]

I bet you would be very supportive if Trump is a shareholder of Unilever right?

What? Why would i, and is that really necessary in a thread that has **** all to do with Trump?

Really pathetic baiting.

 

[Arazi]

Not everything is about an American President.

Exactly, what a pathetic post.

And on topic, I'm sure someone somewhere made an absolute killing.Does this sort of thing actually get investigated?

This is what i was thinking, it is rife for abuse.

 

[Arazi]

Whoosh....

Unless you didn't know, for example, Trump owns shares in the company that benefits most from the Dakota pipeline project, OP is a Trump supporter, he hasn't criticise Trump on a direct policy that makes him rich. Anyone else would be put in jail for insider trading.

If he were against cooperation making money for shares going up (something that is out of their control), he should be criticising Trump getting rich for something he actually has control right?...my point?

OP's hypocrisy.

Hahaha, BS and you are paranoid, i have not got a clue what Trump has his money in, i am really not that interested, and when have i said i support Trump? i just like watching the hysteria by people like you and i like the idea of a new world order, that doesnt mean i like or im interested in Trump, apart from what he does as president.

Go back to the Trump thread and carry on the love in with your buddies, it is terrific to read.

 

[robfosters]

Wow, that post from Raymond was so bad it almost deserves an apology.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Wow, that post from Raymond was so bad it almost deserves an apology.

But it's the truth.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...caught-investing-dakota-access-pipeline-appr/

And if you read Speaker's Corner, OP is a Trump supporter. He might not say it, his posts tells a different story.

If Trump does not own those shares then I apologise.

 

[Arazi]

Wow, that post from Raymond was so bad it almost deserves an apology.

I had to double check i was in the thread i created, complete WTF

 

[Arazi]

But it's the truth.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...caught-investing-dakota-access-pipeline-appr/

And if you read Speaker's Corner, OP is a Trump supporter. He might not say it, his posts tells a different story.

What is the truth?

This thread is about potential skullduggery in trading, even if i did support trump, wtf has that got to do with this topic?

Why do you say I am a "Trump Supporter" like it's kiddy porn and to be scorned at.

 

[Raymond Lin]

I had to double check i was in the thread i created, complete WTF

On topic, shares go up and down, these things happen all the time. It would take some hell of insider trading and big risk to make money from it, sure it happens but you risk jail time.

People do it.

 

[Arazi]

On topic,

You got balls saying that.

 

[Raymond Lin]

What is the truth?

This thread is about potential skullduggery in trading, even if i did support trump, wtf has that got to do with this topic?

Why do you say I am a "Trump Supporter" like it's kiddy porn and to be scorned at.

The point is potential skullduggery in trading.

You are clearly against it. I think that is dishonest too. Something we agree on.

So I disagree massively when Trump benefits financially through his power in office, something which you never address. (off topic, fair enough, I apologise for that, but I am right that you do support Trump and you never criticise him for his abuse of his position to benefit himself financially, which I'd thought you would do if you are against these trading practices, hence, at least the appearance of hypocrisy)

I am not leaning on your support for Trump but questioning the inconsistency.

 

[Arazi]

(off topic, fair enough, I apologise for that, but I am right that you do support Trump )

So?

It's not ******* leprosy.

 

[Dis86]

Whoa, that was all a bit uncalled for!

 

[dowie]

I am not sure if anyone else has thought this but Kraft throw in a bid to by out Unilever, Unilever share price jumps up, 3 days later Kraft pull out.

Now who is making profit here, something doesn't smell right with this, Unilever shares went from ~ $42 to ~ $49.

It may not sound a lot but we are talking about a company worth over $150 Billion.

Do any watchdog kind of organisations look at this kind of dealing. It all started Friday and was over with this morning.

Yup, insider trading is investigated and occasionally prosecuted.

I'm not sure what 'doesn't smell right' in this instance?

It is pretty standard for the shares of a company being targeted in a potential takeover to jump, you'll also see the share price of the company instigating the takeover fall. Generally the price will rise to a point a bit below the bid from the company instigating the takeover. In this case IIRC Kraft was bidding £40 and the shares jumped to £38 or so... the difference between the price they're trading at at that point and the price Kraft is offering reflects the market's assessment of the chance of the deal going through.

If you believe the deal will go through then a simple example of a trade would be to go long(buy) Unilever and short (sell) Kraft. On the other hand if you believe the deal will fail you could do the opposite.*

And as we saw, when it fell through, Unilever shares fell and Kraft shares rose.

 

[dowie]

Not everything is about an American President.

And on topic, I'm sure someone somewhere made an absolute killing.Does this sort of thing actually get investigated?

I got quoted by him repeatedly for a page in SC after mentioning something negative about Obama...

What about Trump...

What about Trump...

What about Trump...

Even though I'd made it quite clear I also thought Trump was bad and considered Bill Clinton the least worst. I don't quite understand it, seemingly if we're going to criticise something these days we need to add a disclaimer that yes Trump is also pretty bad.