KTM 790 Duke

jigger · 12 Nov 2017 at 15:55

105 ish HP
170Kg
800cc P twin

Reminds me a lot of the Husqvana twin that used the rebored BMW/Rotax engine. Should be a hell of a lot better than the 690 single.

www.motorcyclenews.com/amp/news/new-bikes/2017/november/ktm-790-duke/

The_Abyss · 12 Nov 2017 at 21:27

After riding the 1290 S it is going to be quite a while before I get back on a KTM accompanied by any enthusiasm. A parallel twin certainly isn't a good starting point!

jigger · 12 Nov 2017 at 22:25

Will have to see but I think this could be a bit special.

IC3 · 12 Nov 2017 at 23:49

That's gay... I thought they'll do a V-Twin config in this ting.

jigger · 12 Nov 2017 at 23:52

IC3 said:
That's gay... I thought they'll do a V-Twin config in this ting.

Why is it gay. A good P-twin is a great setup. I'd take one over most v twins.

Kreeeee · 12 Nov 2017 at 23:58

It's too heavy, which is very unlike ktm. It doesn't compare well with the street triple (heavier, less power, lower quality brakes and suspension) and the 690 is more appealing to me at only 149kg.

I really wanted the 790 to be my next bike but it falls far too short for me.

IC3 · 13 Nov 2017 at 00:07

jigger said:
Why is it gay. A good P-twin is a great setup. I'd take one over most v twins.

They sound AIDS m7

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 00:29

IC3 said:
They sound AIDS m7

No worse than a v twin.

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 00:39

Kreeeee said:
It's too heavy, which is very unlike ktm. It doesn't compare well with the street triple (heavier, less power, lower quality brakes and suspension) and the 690 is more appealing to me at only 149kg.

I really wanted the 790 to be my next bike but it falls far too short for me.

Yeah maybe little heavy but this isn't stripped bare super moto. With a lithium battery and titanium system I'm sure you'd get it closer to 160Kg.

150Kg is heavy for that type of bike. If you want a proper balls to wall lightweight then Husaberg or Husquvana SMR are hard to beat. Those are around 100Kg.

TallPaul_S · 13 Nov 2017 at 00:52

IC3 said:
They sound AIDS m7

jigger said:
No worse than a v twin.

They've made it with a 270 degree crank, so it sounds just like a V-twin.

Kreeeee said:
It's too heavy, which is very unlike ktm. It doesn't compare well with the street triple (heavier, less power, lower quality brakes and suspension) and the 690 is more appealing to me at only 149kg.

I really wanted the 790 to be my next bike but it falls far too short for me.

I know you like your light bikes, but it's only 4KG heavier (dry weight) than the Street triple RS? 77nm torue @ 10800rpm for the triumph, vs 86nm @ 8000rpm for the KTM. More low down torque and more of it overall, so what that it's down 20bhp!!

I agree on the brakes and suspension, but then the KTM has better electronics, so there's that.

For me it'd be the KTM, looks nicer, has more torque, better sounding, up and down blipper, and so long as the suspension does the job well (should do being WP) then it's all good

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 01:14

TallPaul_S said:
They've made it with a 270 degree crank, so it sounds just like a V-twin.

I know you like your light bikes, but it's only 4KG heavier (dry weight) than the Street triple RS? 77nm torue @ 10800rpm for the triumph, vs 86nm @ 8000rpm for the KTM. More low down torque and more of it overall, so what that it's down 20bhp!! I agree on the brakes and suspension, but then the KTM has better electronics, so there's that.

For me it'd be the KTM, looks nicer, has more torque, better sounding, up and down blipper, and so long as the suspension does the job well (should do being WP) then it's all good

Should be nice with a 270 crank and 9000 RPM. Revy enough but with good spread of power. I bet 790R get bigger brakes, harder suspension and probably make a bit more at the top end.

Yaayuh! · 13 Nov 2017 at 07:31

I hope it sounds and feels better than the BMW F800R...

Kreeeee · 13 Nov 2017 at 07:33

TallPaul_S said:
For me it'd be the KTM, looks nicer, has more torque, better sounding, up and down blipper, and so long as the suspension does the job well (should do being WP) then it's all good

The order of importance for me is suspension, geometry, brakes, weight, sound, torque, power, tank range, aesthetics.

The 790 is just not good enough on paper for those top priorities. We'll see how it is when I can test ride one though.

Yaayuh! · 13 Nov 2017 at 08:24

Any news of an R version?

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 13:20

Rossi~ said:
I hope it sounds and feels better than the BMW F800R...

It should be pretty smooth. Never rode the 800 but the 650 single BMW was surprisingly good.

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 13:24

Rossi~ said:
Any news of an R version?

Nothing I can find, but I'm sure it will on the way. I'd think it will get M50's, adjustable rear shock, better tyres, a bit more grunt and be very orange.

Captain · 13 Nov 2017 at 19:22

Kreeeee said:
It's too heavy, which is very unlike ktm. It doesn't compare well with the street triple (heavier, less power, lower quality brakes and suspension) and the 690 is more appealing to me at only 149kg.

I really wanted the 790 to be my next bike but it falls far too short for me.

That’s an MT-09, new street triple, bmw s1000r and now the KTM 790 as your “next” bike

Kreeeee · 13 Nov 2017 at 19:56

Clov!s said:
That’s an MT-09, new street triple, bmw s1000r and now the KTM 790 as your “next” bike

and the 390, 690, MT-10 and an older Street Triple R.

They all are a disappointment in one way or another

Annoyingly loads of bike have changed a lot recently (Street Triple, MT09 SP, Duke 790) which makes them very expensive, and I don't want to envy the newer models with their LCD screens and auto blippers.

jigger · 13 Nov 2017 at 20:25

Kreeeee said:
and the 390, 690, MT-10 and an older Street Triple R.

They all are a disappointment in one way or another

Annoyingly loads of bike have changed a lot recently (Street Triple, MT09 SP, Duke 790) which makes them very expensive, and I don't want to envy the newer models with their LCD screens and auto blippers.

You need an RD500. Candy blue goodness.

TallPaul_S · 13 Nov 2017 at 21:37

A 2-stroke? in Switzerland? :eek:

Are you crazy!!!

The police over there would feint at the sound/smell of one!!!