Laptops with proper arrow keys

[throwaway4372]

With component prices as they are, I'm considering a laptop for my next machine.

However, most laptops seem to have weird arrow keys like this:

I game all the time with arrow keys so don't want that, so I need to shortlist some laptops that have proper arrow keys.

So far I've found only one - Dell Alienware:

If you know of any others pls share.

 

[Semple]

Is this just for cosmetic/OCD reasons?

I'm very curious why, i'm sure you barely even look at the keys whilst gaming?

 

[throwaway4372]

Usability reasons, mainly:
- 20 years of playing the same way at a high level and don't want to retrain, and..
- I had a work laptop with small arrow keys and was constantly pressing the wrong button, fingers are bigger than those buttons.

Edit: not me but: imagine being a woman with nails, you'd never be able to press down lol! This keyboard layout just doesn't make any sense to me, buttons need to be pressable by actual human fingers!

Edit2: in my case I'll be pressing these keys about 200 times a minute for several hours in a gaming session, it has to be comfortable.

 

[oweneades]

Lenovo Legion series and the Omens from HP both have full sized and well placed arrow keys (Omen is no good if you need a numpad mind).

 

[Mohammed Razaa]

generally Asus and Lenova both have the full arrows keys on all their models

 

[-kaan-]

MSI also has full size of arrow keys in gaming series

 

[throwaway4372]

Thanks guys, really liking the HP Omen keyboard as it's basically normal TKL. I also use the Ins/Del/Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys extensively so it's really nice seeing those in the normal place. All laptops should be like that IMO.

Shame the HP Omen is a bit on the cheap end so not the best build quality, but maybe they'll improve by the time I need one.

 

[throwaway4372]

Is anyone aware of any other laptops with proper TKL keyboard layout besides the HP Omen?