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Ah, you obviously haven't spent much time in the General Election thread: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18099886&highlight=username_Hatter+Mad
LAZY SCROUNGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As the elction gets closer they will get more desperate for your votes and will spout more and more promises. I dont believe anything these mp's say anymore!
The JSA seems criminally innefficient and badly run. My girlfriend is going through hell trying to get about £400 that she is owed off them. I shouldnt really go into too much detail, but the short story is she was made redundant at Christmas, and relunctantly signed up for JSA while looking for other jobs. And when I say looking, I dont mean half-heartedly; she's well qualified and experienced as a CAD engineer and spent every single day ringing around and emailing CVs. She was going into the local job centre to sign on and one day they just said "Oh, the claim has been cancelled by the main office".
It turns out that when she signed on she told them all her information and informed them that she was in part time education (a day-release at university for an HNC, fully paid off by her previous employer). Due to a cockup, she was somehow listed as in full-time education. Apparently the JSA main office in Canterbury tried contacting her twice to get proof that her course was only part time (they allegedly sent two letters which she never recieved, and phoned her - once - from a blocked number and left no message). She of course never heard anything, and went into the Job Centre for two more meetings after the claim had been cancelled and no-one told her about the situation "because we use two seperate systems that don't communicate with each other"
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So anyway, after much arguing, filling out hundreds of forms, and sending them signed documentation to prove her education course is only part time, they are still refusing to pay her all the money she is owed. Which means her landlord is on to her for rent that is owed. It's annoying because even though she has supplied the relevant proof about her education, they are still saying that they made every effort to contact her to gain the proof they required. They didnt (I cant believe they cant have left a note on the system so that the next time she went into the Job Centre to sign on, she was informed in person) and why should she be blamed because she failed to rectify the situation they cocked up in the very first instance?
The galling thing is that she has bene nothing but open, honest and co-operative since day one. She didn't lie about her education, informed them of all the correct details and due to a pro-active approach is now back in decent full time work. Yet after about 4-5 years of working full time and paying into the system, she now cant claim a mere few weeks worth of financial support that she is entitled to because the JSA system ****ed up and is refusing to honour her legitimate claim, while the media seems to be full of stories about people who don't make the effort like her, don't care, lie about their actions and still mange to claim a healthy dose of taxpayers money regardless. If she had just lied and not mentioned her education, she probbaly would have had the money paid, and this entire episode put behind her by now.
It turns out that when she signed on she told them all her information and informed them that she was in part time education (a day-release at university for an HNC, fully paid off by her previous employer). Due to a cockup, she was somehow listed as in full-time education. Apparently the JSA main office in Canterbury tried contacting her twice to get proof that her course was only part time (they allegedly sent two letters which she never recieved, and phoned her - once - from a blocked number and left no message). She of course never heard anything, and went into the Job Centre for two more meetings after the claim had been cancelled and no-one told her about the situation "because we use two seperate systems that don't communicate with each other"
.So anyway, after much arguing, filling out hundreds of forms, and sending them signed documentation to prove her education course is only part time, they are still refusing to pay her all the money she is owed. Which means her landlord is on to her for rent that is owed. It's annoying because even though she has supplied the relevant proof about her education, they are still saying that they made every effort to contact her to gain the proof they required. They didnt (I cant believe they cant have left a note on the system so that the next time she went into the Job Centre to sign on, she was informed in person) and why should she be blamed because she failed to rectify the situation they cocked up in the very first instance?
The galling thing is that she has bene nothing but open, honest and co-operative since day one. She didn't lie about her education, informed them of all the correct details and due to a pro-active approach is now back in decent full time work. Yet after about 4-5 years of working full time and paying into the system, she now cant claim a mere few weeks worth of financial support that she is entitled to because the JSA system ****ed up and is refusing to honour her legitimate claim, while the media seems to be full of stories about people who don't make the effort like her, don't care, lie about their actions and still mange to claim a healthy dose of taxpayers money regardless. If she had just lied and not mentioned her education, she probbaly would have had the money paid, and this entire episode put behind her by now.
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What is classed as reasonable? They could just turn around and say "dont want that one"
Personally I think if you havent found work in over a year you should be make to do any job or have all benefits taken away. I also dont see why certain people are entitled to things like free dentist work.
Why should I have to pay £20 for a 2 minute checkup and take a days holiday from my job but some horrible kosovan/other ethnic minority( majority) /dole dosser who sits at home doing nothing can have a full set of new teeth for free! Fair play if they cant get a job but they should be definately be made to pay for things like everyone else, tax should also be taken like everyone else from their dole jobs. Maybe the reason they cant/dont want to get a job is that they were little turd drop outs at school and knew they would get handouts. Maybe this was down to parenting but somewhere down the line something or someone went bad, if the govenment gives free handouts there are going to be many generations of non working scumbags
major rant over and out
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1. Ah I did think about Contribution based but I couldn't remember the full facts on it.
2. Totally agree if you are entitled to it then you should have it.
3. Figured that too but didn't want to cause to much drama
There is over 50 pages there, are you reffering to a specific post by britboy?
Its fair enough when you want to rant but keeps the facts correct. NHS checkups do not cost £20 and take more than 2 minutes. Private checkups cost more than £20 so idk where you got that from.
Lots of people are unemployed for reasons out of there control, it REALLY does happen and if they need help for reasons such as dental care then I am all for it, the people that take advantage of this doesn't mean everyone should lose out. Yes I hate taking time off work to go but its life.
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David Cameron's new theme tune is 'Hands up' by Ottowan.
I hope his next catchphrase is Dole Is Scroungers Chosen Occupation then he can have their other song too.
I hope his next catchphrase is Dole Is Scroungers Chosen Occupation then he can have their other song too.
I still like my idea.
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
I still like my idea.
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
That sounds brilliant! Time to start a get rich quick scheme?
IMAO > bledd's idea, but could well imagine some people sueing the Goverment because they have developed some unknown injury like Bikitis or what ever lol.
Get your scheme under way bledd, l,ll split the compensation money with you, got to be worth a few bob lol.
Get your scheme under way bledd, l,ll split the compensation money with you, got to be worth a few bob lol
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I still like my idea.
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
Wouldn't using them slightly more directly for fuel be easier? Biomass.
Last time I had an NHS checkup it cost me £20 (well, £17 i think it was) I was in the chair for no longer than 2 minutes. She literally got me to sit in the chair, open my mouth and had a quick look. That was it
I still like my idea.
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
This sounds like the only solution for the problem ha!
I've got that covered in the "don't lose" clause.
Should also have drugs/alcohol test when giving out dole money, if you're steaming drunk, or have been taking drugs, you get nothing.
Now that I do agree with.
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This for the Incapacity Benefit claimants if they don't drop the big act.
With regards to question 2: Why take JSA if you don't need it? Becasue you think you deserve it? If we all felt like that we'd even be more ****** then we are today. Sorry but I think you've got the wrong attitude. I was unemployed PC contractor for 12 months, not once did I claim but used my own savings to live.
Sorry mate but you got a ***** attitude and its people who think like you that abuse the system even if you are entitled to it but you can afford not to take it. You're just as bad as the scummers who don't want to work period. My advice to you would be to stop looking for a similar role that you did in the past and use your skills you gained in your past job to get you something else.
Good luck
IMO why not claim? you spend your entire working life paying into the system why not get something back when its needed. Granted he may have savings to live on but im sure those savings are better saved...selfish maybe but if there is a system out there that is ment to facilitate people out of work it should be fair for all to use savings or not.
It is your opinion and you are entitled to it. The claim is for NI contributions that I have made in the past 2 years. I have made them and so am entitled to them under their rules.
When my wife and I have paid around £2800 in taxes per month for years into the system, I think me taking £260 a month out of the system is a fair trade. You may think I have a bad attitude but why should I have to spend our savings ? So that I can feel a hero just like you ? I still have to pay my mortgage out of my pocket so that £260 will cover half of the interest payments.
Perhaps if you like feeling being such a hero, and if you are currently contracting maybe you should think twice about putting any of those reciepts in to claim back the tax and just pay the tax. Oh you put those reciepts in because you were entitled to under the tax rules hey ? Well I claim because I am entitled to end of story.
I still like my idea.
In the job centre, there will be hundreds of exercise bikes, plugged into the national grid.
You spend all day cycling to pump energy back into the grid. You get 2 meals when you're there and a shower at the end.
During your breaks you can apply for jobs etc
LOL