Le Vote, France start to elect a new president
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There's a little thing called 'fact checking.' It's what journalists used to do before the 24-hour news cycle.
The French police have already confirmed that the alleged offshore account/dodgy tax documents stuff is fake. You don't need to take Macron's word for it.
What a load of ****, if this is the french idea of liberty of information, then they croak on it. You cant suppress information that's already in public hands, its basically analogous to burning books in the 1940s first with commie propaganda/other crap the nazis didn't like and then all the Nazi crap after they lost. Only thing is that all those books were elsewhere or at least the ideas were already well founded in other literature (Eugenics for example). Regardless, the age of infinitely duplicating information has made this idea completely untenable and any policy of attacking that ability is just fascism pure and simple.
FYI, I don't care about whats in the documents, probably like most other hacks 99% of it is boring legalese or communications, but if its out in the public when it shouldn't be... that's their own bloody fault. Instead, they've ignored their own responsibility and are calling out literally everyone else to be good little citizens.
So you think it should be ok to the paper to publish ajy private co fidential i formation obtsined illegaly and with zero validation of its authenticity if its released annonomysly first?
So say the daily mail could publish all your emaisl where you go into deep and graphic peadophilic fantasies because somone uploaded an anaonymous email duml of your emails?
True or not?
Thought the emails were originally published on Pastebin? What do wiki leaks have to do with it?
Edit: @StriderX mmjs commenti is not all as it seems. This is the relevant part.
It's not that people can't look at it, rather that the media cannot report on it for the couple of days prior to the election., basically like the no canvassing rules we have in Uk elections.
It's also believed it's the far right/4chan working "with" the Russians again.
And people still insist on supporting people they support?
And
https://www.google.ca/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1812AZ
So as I said before - if you can't win fair then steal, lie and blackmail your way to (hopefull) success. It's worked in the past (and no, I don't mean Trump).
Edit: @StriderX mmjs commenti is not all as it seems. This is the relevant part.
It's not that people can't look at it, rather that the media cannot report on it for the couple of days prior to the election., basically like the no canvassing rules we have in Uk elections.
It's also believed it's the far right/4chan working "with" the Russians again.
And people still insist on supporting people they support?
And
https://www.google.ca/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1812AZ
So as I said before - if you can't win fair then steal, lie and blackmail your way to (hopefull) success. It's worked in the past (and no, I don't mean Trump).
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"The polls opened in metropolitan France at 08:00 local time (06:00 GMT) on Sunday and close at 19:00 (17:00 GMT)."
O rly?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39833831
O rly?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39833831
Betting widened on both Brexit and Trump on the day of polling. I wouldn't read much into what is a pretty standard betting pattern.
The polls only need to be 7% out and after Brexit and Trump that's easily possible... a lot of voters won't admit to voting Le Pen due to the media created stigma towards putting your own country first.
TBH I'd rather Macron win, if Le Pen wins there's a chance the EU might reform to save its existance and that will give remainers more ammunition to put the shackles back on us.
TBH I'd rather Macron win, if Le Pen wins there's a chance the EU might reform to save its existance and that will give remainers more ammunition to put the shackles back on us.
'Only'? 7% is a huge deviation.
Really? Even the least accurate Brexit and US election polls were out by a maximum of 4%. Most were out by 3% or less. None of them were out by 7%.
To date, the French polls have proved completely accurate.
Lol if Macron wins, he can't really do anything, he has no MPs.
Its unlikely he'll gain a majority either, so he'll typically have to call on his ye olde establishment friends which will be a boon for Le Pen regardless. Quite frankly people thinking this is over are being largely short-sighted, even Le Pen knows she's lost, she's known this for months with the way the second round works.
She's setting the stage, is all.
Its unlikely he'll gain a majority either, so he'll typically have to call on his ye olde establishment friends which will be a boon for Le Pen regardless. Quite frankly people thinking this is over are being largely short-sighted, even Le Pen knows she's lost, she's known this for months with the way the second round works.
She's setting the stage, is all.
How is she setting the stage, and what will she gain from this?
Saying that, Le Pen cant do anything either with her 2 MPs, but that wouldn't be too important for her/FN, the fact that she should win (which she wont) would be a representation of the denial for the usual suspects in politics. It would then go on to be used in the subsequent Elections for MPs, hoping that the vote translates into a majority (which it wouldn't).
It's all talk from FN and it works, because the establishment have been disastrous in the last decade.
Every politician is setting some sort of stage at every moment they can get, we are getting this dumb'd down version of "repeat ad nauseam" from the Tories where they are just trying to get other people saying it, connecting the dots and voting Tory.
FN have the idea that their support will always rise until they achieve their goal, because establishment will always disappoint. Remember Labour are a spent force in Scotland, something once thought unimaginable.
It's all talk from FN and it works, because the establishment have been disastrous in the last decade.
Every politician is setting some sort of stage at every moment they can get, we are getting this dumb'd down version of "repeat ad nauseam" from the Tories where they are just trying to get other people saying it, connecting the dots and voting Tory.
FN have the idea that their support will always rise until they achieve their goal, because establishment will always disappoint. Remember Labour are a spent force in Scotland, something once thought unimaginable.
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If Le Pen wins then pollsters really ought to just give up. Brexit was won by a couple of percent, Trump didn't win the popular vote but won some key states... those polling errors are nothing compared to the sort of error that would have taken place if Le Pen wins. It really isn't very likely to happen at all - frankly I think a bet on Marcon at 1.10 last night was a nice, easy 10% return.