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Also, in addition to the above;
I find with her abilites (W & R), you really really need them bound to Smart/Normal Cast AND Self Cast, so you can easily pop W and R on yourself whenever you urgently need them.

I found my self really fumbling with casting them on myself vs a team-mate for the first while
 
I tried a hybrid build which worked ok (AD / mana regen / AP per level runes). You hit like a brick early on with that build. I'll have to try the attack speed build since I imagine it works better with her passive. I found the same as you though. I could do a lot of damage but I died a lot due to not having an escape past flash and being late on a few ultimates. I'll have to try and work some defence into my build I guess.
 
Runes i use currently are Arm.Pen red, mana regen blue&yellow, HP quints. I'm tempted to change to some AD runes somewhere.

Items, dorans blade > beserkers (unless really heavy stun team) > malady > bloodthirster > hextech > more damage > perhaps some defence (banshee) > replace boots with phantom dancer.

Laning vs anyone you can have confidence that you simply hit harder, skill E > Q > Q > W > Q.


..also, with practice you can happily get most last hits on creeps AND force the AP out of lane in mid without pushing the lane to the tower too much. Just need to play really aggressively, flash and ignite will either secure a first blood or force them to go back to base after less than 10 creep kills so nothing to buy :) gives you a level advantage then too.
 
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Been on holiday for the last week and just read the last week of this thread.... now totally jonesin for some lol :D

Is the new character out? Is she any good? Liking the idea about breaking out the ultra combo's with her moves

Have already forgotten almost everything i was going to comment on (should have taken notes) but my main comments are jungling rules, sure you can say ganks are good for the team but at the end of the day it is a greedy thing, i want those kills, i was the other team to fear stepping out of their own tower range, i want them to go to sleep that night and have nightmares of nocturne rushing towards them :D

As for playing nocturne tanky i disagree with this, nocturne is all about timing and using your shield(s), even with a wiggles and banshee's if you jump in early you are going to get focused and will die regardless of having 2 shields and some resistance as he is just not that tanky.... Nocturnes main strength relies on poking with your q and staying back enough that you are not getting hurt too badly until the fight begins to break up.... someone gets hurt a bit too much and starts to flee, this is when you strike kill the fleeing player and more importantly breaking up their team even further with the loss of vision, from here on they are usually too unorganised to focus you and so you can start to mop up without fear of being 1 hitted by their entire team.
 
DJammyRasta said:
Been on holiday for the last week and just read the last week of this thread.... now totally jonesin for some lol :D

Is the new character out? Is she any good? Liking the idea about breaking out the ultra combo's with her moves

Have already forgotten almost everything i was going to comment on (should have taken notes) but my main comments are jungling rules, sure you can say ganks are good for the team but at the end of the day it is a greedy thing, i want those kills, i was the other team to fear stepping out of their own tower range, i want them to go to sleep that night and have nightmares of nocturne rushing towards them :D

As for playing nocturne tanky i disagree with this, nocturne is all about timing and using your shield(s), even with a wiggles and banshee's if you jump in early you are going to get focused and will die regardless of having 2 shields and some resistance as he is just not that tanky.... Nocturnes main strength relies on poking with your q and staying back enough that you are not getting hurt too badly until the fight begins to break up.... someone gets hurt a bit too much and starts to flee, this is when you strike kill the fleeing player and more importantly breaking up their team even further with the loss of vision, from here on they are usually too unorganised to focus you and so you can start to mop up without fear of being 1 hitted by their entire team.
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I was wondering where you've been :P
New character is 'apparently' UP, but I haven't played as her, only against her. Not that threatening imo so far but have seen her fairly tanky.
 
rogueblade said:
I was wondering where you've been :P
New character is 'apparently' UP, but I haven't played as her, only against her. Not that threatening imo so far but have seen her fairly tanky.
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I've been in a game against her but she didn't seem to do much so I can't really judge. She certainly wasn't owning us or anything.
 
Borrish said:
I've been in a game against her but she didn't seem to do much so I can't really judge. She certainly wasn't owning us or anything.
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I've seen people do immense ability combos with her... on minions, which is why I'm think people are playing her badly. :eek:

She's got a dive shield, which I never see anyone use to tower dive. :rolleyes:
 
You could use any cleanse (qss/summoner cleanse/oranges all use the same "spell")to remove the teleport cast time debuff and finish teleporting instantly. You could either use this to run away or do some pretty hilarious stuff (Skarner ult > teleport to a tower) or counter gank any lane.
 
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So what reason is there for having an AD carry farm mid while the AP carry lanes with the support? Surely the AP needs the levels more where the AD need gold which they can farm in the lane just fine. Surely you also want maximum possible AoE damage as well which is what the AP carries are good at? I can see that you could run a caster top especially if you have tanky DPS jungling but I don't see why you would stick your AP solo top and your bruiser mid unless one of them was a hard counter for one of the solo heroes.

Serious question by the way. I apologise for my earlier post. I was in a very bad mood when I posted it and in my defence I had just come from a game where the carry took solo mid and then fed Annie.
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Heh, it's ok don't worry about it. In real life I would have presumed as much, but one can't take chances on the internetz. Phasers always set to kill and all that jazz :D

The main reason you run your AD bot is because your AD needs to farm for 30+ mins to be useful (in fact you need 20mins of pure farm to even do *anything* with most AD's, from a team point of view anyway), Ezreal being an exception to that rule but we'll come to him later. So ideally as an AD you want to spend more then half the game farming, which conflicts with what your team needs from a solo lane. The typical reason (and the reason why AD/support is now so popular) you also run a support bottom with the AD is to facilitate free farm for your carry as much as possible.

Ezreal is the opposite to this, in that he peaks early/mid rather then late but this is due to, for the most part, itemization rather then the anything particular to the character itself. I haven't seen much of post-change Kayle but I think she falls into the same pigeon hole as Ez for an opposite reason (mainly, because of her skill set regardless of itemization). Anim would be more qualified to talk about her then me though :)
 
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Hunders said:
We need more admins on mumble. There's someone who requires verification in my group at the moment but no admin is on.
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*Sigh*

No, we don't. There is a problem with a huge glut of people who never registered, this problem will grow less and less severe with time (about one more week at most I reckon) until it's not even an issue. Unfortunately the breaking in stage also coincided with me working flat out for 3 days (I doubt any follows GAA here, but Dublin won the All-Ireland on Sunday which resulted in me working a 16 hour shift not counting the day before and after :p).

@tals You didn't have to do that btw mate, I had previously made a channel that *anyone* could enter and talk in regardless of whether you were authorized or not as a failsafe for when I went to work on Sat night. Obviously nobody figured that out? :D
 
Myshra said:
Is the hilarious cleanse/qss/oranges & teleport bug still working? Last night was kinda brutal because of it.
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Hasn't worked for a long time afaik, so strange you saw it the other night. They fixed it with a load of TF teleport bugs (he was pretty much the most infamous user of it).

-edit- Nvm, a bit of research has shown me that the idiots have managed to re-introduce it. This also has now shown up. I don't know what the hell they are doing over there but it certainly ain't coding :/
 
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We had a team try the whole ward in a bush and teleport, apart from they didnt pop a ward and didnt teleport; They just all ran to the bush and tried to hide there, without knowing that they all popped up on our map as they ran past a tower.. Let's just say it didnt go as well as they planned.
 
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No, we don't. There is a problem with a huge glut of people who never registered, this problem will grow less and less severe with time (about one more week at most I reckon) until it's not even an issue. Unfortunately the breaking in stage also coincided with me working flat out for 3 days (I doubt any follows GAA here, but Dublin won the All-Ireland on Sunday which resulted in me working a 16 hour shift not counting the day before and after :p).

@tals You didn't have to do that btw mate, I had previously made a channel that *anyone* could enter and talk in regardless of whether you were authorized or not as a failsafe for when I went to work on Sat night. Obviously nobody figured that out? :D
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It didn't work - tested it out with an unregistered player and nor does my amendments, tbh as long as the person can't text or chat I have no problem with them moving around but my changes don't work and i'm not too concerned as it will improve. The best tip I can give unregistered is just leave yourself at the bottom of mumble and an admin will spot you and register you. It does help if you can post here if we may not know you but again tbh it's not so much of a concern as the banning is much easier once you are registered :)
 
You know I played maybe 10 games yesterday, at least 7 as a jungler, not once did we get counter jungled however we robbed up their jungle and got a few FB from people running through the jungle to their lanes.

So my real life friend is playing this and he was saying about how he had this crap jungler on his team that didn't do anything so I offered to show him what a good (LOLOLOL) jungler looks like, everyone chose AD so I had to go the only AP jungler I know... Fiddlesticks lol. Only played him jungler twice before.... So we counter jungled them as they had a jungle Riven. Anyway cut a really long story shot, it was 11 mins before I got my first blue and I died 3 times at blue...

FML.

Man I'm loving Nasus atm also. Solo top as him yesterday against Akali and Tristana - I gave away FB, adjusted my skill order around a little manager to farm the hell out of my Q, got loads of last hits due to my E and dominated them lol.
 
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