Learning another useful Language? Help

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On my road to becoming a successful entrepreneur, I have a game plan that I am working to which helps build me up on a range of platforms.

For instance, I am learning "Lean" management to enhance my operations management as a person (turning off lights, organisation skills etc) and also make my business operation slick.

I would like to learn another Language to help me along my way, was thinking of an easy one, but would love to learn one of these:
>Japanese
>Chinese
>Czech

Can you get courses for these? are they easy?

(business will pay for it, cause it will benifit my company too)
 
Booner! said:
On my road to becoming a successful entrepreneur, I have a game plan that I am working to which helps build me up on a range of platforms.

For instance, I am learning "Lean" management to enhance my operations management as a person (turning off lights, organisation skills etc) and also make my business operation slick.

I would like to learn another Language to help me along my way, was thinking of an easy one, but would love to learn one of these:
>Japanese
>Chinese
>Czech

Can you get courses for these? are they easy?

(business will pay for it, cause it will benifit my company too)

Well I cant speak for Czech but Chinese And Japanese will not be so easy, you have to learn an entire differe different alphabet with symbols that look nothing like ours! Spanish however is a good and easy language to learn at the moment...
 
jcb33 said:
Well I cant speak for Czech but Chinese And Japanese will not be so easy, you have to learn an entire differe different alphabet with symbols that look nothing like ours! Spanish however is a good and easy language to learn at the moment...

Hmmm I just don't see any benifit to learning spanish though
 
yet you think czech will help you (and I believe the czech alphabet is pretty fu nk as well and doesn't follow the latin routes).

Spanish is one of the most common languages onearth.
I would reccomend French, the official language of the olympics and the UN, normally the first major translation after english and is a very common 2nd langauge (e.g. italians and spanish often learn french instead of english.
 
D.P. said:
yet you think czech will help you (and I believe the czech alphabet is pretty fu nk as well and doesn't follow the latin routes).

Spanish is one of the most common languages onearth.
I would reccomend French, the official language of the olympics and the UN, normally the first major translation after english and is a very common 2nd langauge (e.g. italians and spanish often learn french instead of english.
I am currently learning french, I was going for Spanish as it is the so well used, but I just found french more apealing. It is spoken in a lot of places, Egypt, Canada etc so I thought it would be a good language to have, especialy when I eventualy get on my travels!
 
Ekim said:
No, Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world.

I think he means Spanish is spoken in more countries in the world than other languages. Easy to get those two confused :)
 
Booner! said:
Can you get courses for these? are they easy?

I did an evening course in Mandarin for beginners at my local adult education centre last year. (My lass is Chinese; I thought it would be a good idea.) The basic logic of the language is pretty straight forward. Unfortunately, the phonetics are absolutely impossible. Chinese is tonal, that is the meaning of the word can vary radically depending on how you vary the pitch of your vowels. None of the European languages are tonal in this sense, so for most Westerners find this aspect of Chinese stupidly difficult. Then, to boot, you have the most cumbersome, user-unfriendly writing system you can imagine. Not an easy language!
 
I'd recommend Mandarin and Russian.

Just aim for reading and listening in both languages, more than enough for a sucessfull edge in business.

My mate is chinese and has been speakng Mardarin at home all his life, he can't write it and can only just read basic shop signs.
 
I'm learning Mandarin, in China, and it is extremely difficult.

Chinese, unlike Japanese, has no alphabet. It's all unique characters for each and every word, or a combination of several to form a whole idea or concept.

Chinese (Mandarin) also has tones, 4 to be exact, and it's a tricky process to begin using and learning tones as a form of communication when, as English speakers, we don't have tones. We do, but they're natural tones that are not taught. In Chinese, you can't mess around with the tones. If a word is 3rd tone, then it's 3rd tone.

If I take one Chinese word, let's say 'qing', this doesn't mean anything unless it's in context or with the character of whatever idea you want to express.

Saying 'Qing' in the first tone could mean several things like dragonfly, rest-room or distinct.

2nd - strong, clear/fine (weather).

3rd - to ask, room.

4th - celebrate, exhausted.

All of these separate words would each have their own unique character in order to express it in writing. Chinese doesn't have many differeny sounding syllables compared to English. Only a few hundred while, in English, we have thousands and thousands.

The grammar of Chinese though, is extremely easy. Much more simple than English as there is no tense.

For example, 'le' is used at the end of a sentence to say that something is happening now.

I'm going to town le. This would mean right now, at this moment. Whilst 'I'm going to town' could mean any time in the future. You just need to be specific. If you put 'le' after a verb, it indicates past tense.

I speak to you.

I speak le (spoke) to you.

Future tense would be expressed using time. Tomorrow, I speak to you. In 2 minutes I speak to you, etc etc.

Obviously, China has three main dialects and the speaking is all entirely different. Cantonese, Shanghainese and Mandarin. As well as many many others.

Mainland Chinese uses simplified characters while Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan use Traditional characters. As a whole, the difference isn't huge, but traditional characters are a hell of a lot more difficult to learn. But, nonetheless, they're both pretty damn tricky. :p

So, if you want to learn Chinese, you have a lot of work ahead of you. There are a lot of concepts you'll need to get over in your mind to be able to understand how it all works exactly.

Japanese is the same, but it has an alphabet as well as individual characters. But if you don't know a Japanese character you can write it in their alphabet or someone can write it in their alphabet for you, then you will be able to read it.

Japanese has two alphabets. Hiragana and Katakana, each being 46 sets of totally unique syllables, not letters.

I hope this was of some help to you.
 
Depending on what type of business you are i would maybe suggest learning German.

They have mass industry over there, and may be very beneficial in the long run.

It is also an easy language to pickup !
 
im suprised no one has mentioned polish, especially with the amount of good polish workers over here.

Chinese would be good if you import things from china where it usually costs less but the quality isnt up to par.

Did you say what your business was?
 
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