Leasing - a simple explanation for a muppet

The way I look at it, it's a complicated type of loan to buy a car which in this case you just never own unless you pay the final payment.

You don't always get the option to buy the car at the end, in fact it's probably more common on a lease that they don't give you the option of owning - it so it's exactly like renting a car.

As you're not buying with cash, however you swing it, it won't be as cheap as just buying outright from day 1.....IMO anyway :D. BUy cash and sell for what it's later worth, the simplest approach, will likely be the cheapest.

In some cases the amount paid on the lease over the term will roughly work out to be the depreciation anyway. 8k over 2 years on a lease, or losing 8k in depreciation in 2 years, works out the same - plus you can keep your money in the bank and keep the interest. This isn't the norm, but they do pop up from time to time...

But again, get all the figures down on paper and see if it actually works for what you want it to do.

Gap insurance for the average person is simply not needed unless you fear certain things and then you should ask whether you should be buying/leasing a £££ car anyway. The risks are calculated and the premium is set so the company still makes a huge profit - only the unlucky few gain, which is the same with most insurance and warranty schemes.

Gap insurance on a regular car finance deal (PCP or HP) for a new vehicle can be worthwhile, especially when a premium can be had for ~£150 for 3 years. If you have the car written off after 13 months, the amount owed on the finance could easily be more than the car is worth - leaving you owing the finance company the difference between the insurance payout and the amount owed.

On a lease deal, it's not quite as straight forward - and I'm not too sure how it works as technically you're only liable for the lease payments. But one thing to consider, if you put down a deposit/initial rental of say £2000 and the car gets written off after 3 months, without Gap insurance that initial rental is gone straight away and you're without a car plus £2k out of pocket...

Like you say though, it's a calculated risk - insurance companies will always win out in the long run. As long as the buyer knows exactly what they're liable for, that's all that matters. I feel there's a lot of people out there that don't understand how these deals work before taking them out.
 
[TW]Fox;30469012 said:
Tax is always included

Not always, folks C63 lease in 2014 didn't have the tax included, can't remember if it was both years or just the second they had to pay.

Never seen another lease though where the tax isn't included :)
 
Not always, folks C63 lease in 2014 didn't have the tax included, can't remember if it was both years or just the second they had to pay.

Never seen another lease though where the tax isn't included :)

It depends really on if the lease company allow you to be the registered keeper.

If the company insist on being the registered keeper, they are liable for the VED.
 
On our second lease, first was a Fiesta ST and currently have a Leon Cupra Black on 1+23 at £249 a month. Tax included. So sub £6k and likely better off than buying when comparing to depreciation. Got it from a main dealer so no fee.
Some leasing works out cheaper than buying, you just have to weigh up the total cost. It's low hassle in that you don't have to sell the car at the end of the lease and you have a known fixed cost to pay.
Note that a lot of leases state that you are liable for all the lease payments outstanding if the car is written off so it's worth buying GAP lease cover, it is cheap (cost us about £60 for 2yrs cover). You can get the GAP lease cover to cover an initial payment if you have paid out a large payment up front but note it's worth asking the lease company if they will do 1+23 rather than 3, 6, 9 etc up front as many will......depends what is right for you.
 
We have a company car scheme where everything is included bar fuel and 10k pa. Running on a 3 year term. Problem it is cheaper to get a 3 year loan and buy a 12-18 month car outright and at the end of that you actually have capital to sell on.
 
I've just put money down on a Citroen C1 after looking at getting a 2nd hand car.

£119 down and £119 a month.

£0 tax (VED), low insurance, low running costs, no MOTs, zero hassle.

Leasing a car can be hit and miss and some deals aren't particullay great but it works for some people (myself included)

I'll be using the C1 to do a 20 mile round trip everyday for work (thus why I went for a little car) and it's great fun to drive for a 1L!
 
Casdawer;30498865 said:
I've just put money down on a Citroen C1 after looking at getting a 2nd hand car.

£119 down and £119 a month.

£0 tax (VED), low insurance, low running costs, no MOTs, zero hassle.

Leasing a car can be hit and miss and some deals aren't particullay great but it works for some people (myself included)

I'll be using the C1 to do a 20 mile round trip everyday for work (thus why I went for a little car) and it's great fun to drive for a 1L!

Depends what you want from your car. I commute 30 miles a day In a Suzuki Ignis Sport, which we have owned for nearly 4 years. 40-50MPG, £185 Tax a year. We paid £2k (41k 1 previous owner) for it 4 years ago and it is worth £1k now worse scenario and 1.5k best. A set of tyres (£300), discs and pads all around (£100) plus normal servicing (£200) is all it has set us back. Insurance is £200 a year roughly. That works out at £69 (Including 4x M.O.T's all passed) a month for something I own and just add fuel.

Okay you have 66 plate for your lease but a C1 is the most basic thing you could ever drive.
 
Just think of it as long term rental. It can be a cheap way to use a brand new car, but will likely never be the cheapest way to use 'a' car. Occasionally great deals come up though, and it's worked nicely for me.

I commute 27 miles each way using a 330e M-Sport @ 295pcm (6+23 15k). It was IMO a bargain and it's an amazing car. My only regret with the lease is I may not be able to find as good a deal again when it runs out, then I'm stuffed.
 
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