---Left 4 Dead 2 Thread---

I still prefer the first over thr second, but on the 360 it still holds some of that best gaming memories of my twenties.
Same. I always felt the feel of the first was much better than the second, coupled with the fact I didn't really like the new specials, the characters weren't as good IMO and I didn't think much of melee. Not that 2 was a bad game - it was good. I just thought 1 was a great game.

Plus we'd modded 1 to have slightly harder specials with some 'extras'
  • smokers had a longer reach, bit faster pull and caused tick damage in the smoke
  • boomer explosion did damage
  • hunters had an increased max pounce damage.
  • Bigger swarms IIRC
Not sure we modded the tank/witch. Probably made them a bit tougher. So yea, we had a great time on one.
 
I regularly played vs - got quite good. The community was amazing, but it is now very toxic. I stopped playing for a little while, but then stumbled across this group:


The guy running this is awesome, all about the player. Admins are good and the player community is great with a lot of regulars. 3 servers, one dedicated to Tank Challenge and Playground, one standard campaigns and the other they play custom maps.

a_sweet_llittle_girl - if you see me on there, say hi and we will look after you :)

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I requested to join!

I much rather prefer L4D1 than 2 and it had some of my most fun gaming memories playing with aaK clan, we literally were on of the best clans in the game and won the league a couple of times in L4D2.

Unfortunately we stopped playing it because our friend DanShields cat died and he couldn't get over it. Sad times.
 
I loved Vs in the original, it just didn't hit the same in the second. Spitter and jockey just weren't that fun to play imo. I did really enjoy scavenger though, especially on the mall map. Nothing tops dragging someone out of the lift in No Mercy with a Smoker just before the doors closed though, it was peak L4D.
 
I loved Vs in the original, it just didn't hit the same in the second. Spitter and jockey just weren't that fun to play imo. I did really enjoy scavenger though, especially on the mall map. Nothing tops dragging someone out of the lift in No Mercy with a Smoker just before the doors closed though, it was peak L4D.

Jockey was great in closed maps, ie Dead Center - you could easily walk a survivor off a ledge to instakill, but open maps Jockey wasn't the best - survivors could easily kill you. Spitter was awesome! If you had a good team a charger/hunter and spitter combo could down a survivor quickly. And on Dead Center was great fun spitting on the cans survivors had took ages to stockpile by the car in the finale - muhahahaha!!
 
Ah spitter was a great class, it worked really well with Boomer combo's too.

I loved playing as Charger on the bridge finale, that was epic taking out 1 person and then leaving the other 3 hanging because of the splash damage when hitting someone!
 
I loved Vs in the original, it just didn't hit the same in the second. Spitter and jockey just weren't that fun to play imo. I did really enjoy scavenger though, especially on the mall map. Nothing tops dragging someone out of the lift in No Mercy with a Smoker just before the doors closed though, it was peak L4D.

I had the Boomer down to an art, so satisfying with the ding ding ding racking up when pulled off right.

Used to play with a small group who were good, very good, most people would rage quit against us in Vs which was a bit frustrating, but one night jumped on with someone from my Eve Online corp, they are a member here but I dunno their forum name, who was just on another level absolutely eye opening use of strategy and game/horde management.
 
I haven't played this game since 2019.. but its still my highest hours played out of all my steam libary which is insane.
Think i stopped cause getting full lobby in vs was hard and moment one team lost a round they all left 1 by 1.
 
Hmmm, war z had PvE and pvpve iirc. Vermintide 2 now has PvP mode - though I've not tried it.

Did you like the PvP bit of l4d or the PvE bit? Or both.
Definitely PvE.

Me and my lad have loved L4D2 recently and now not sure what to look at thats similar after playing it loads.
 
Definitely PvE.

Me and my lad have loved L4D2 recently and now not sure what to look at thats similar after playing it loads.
Have a look at World War Z then, Vermintide 2 if you want a bit of melee, Darktide is more shooty but I'm not sure if you can play on a private squad yet or not.
Vermintide 2 is my favourite of the 3 (specifically the chaos wastes mode), but it is very melee focused. WarZ is gun focused, Darktide is both. (Imo)

Vermintide 2 is also the hardest IMO, at the start and the end.

I can give you a run down if the 3 in a post when I'm not in my phone - though I may well already have done so in here for at least V2/Darktide.
 
Definitely PvE.

Me and my lad have loved L4D2 recently and now not sure what to look at thats similar after playing it loads.
Right, later than expected but...

World War Z
IIRC, and unless they've changed it, only one of you need the DLC maps for you to be able to do it. But do double check!

This will be PvE info, as I don't play the PvP so that might be different - i know it has different progression and classes.
Has both PvE missions across several different areas, with most having different characters though there are some repeats.
Has hordes of zombies - bigger than L4D IIRC
Has special zombies (names might be wrong) -
  • Bomber - blows up, can be disabled for loot if you aim in the right spot and are quick enough
  • Spitter - spits goo at you.... but it infects you! You have to disinfect yourself by holding a button for a few seconds or you will turn (instant death)
  • Hunter - it's a hunter, can't bounce off walls though
  • Gas man - hasmat suit, lets of AoE damage gas if you don't headshot
  • Screamer - calls in horders using a megaphone, needs to be killed to stop more hordes
  • Reeker - boosts nearby normal zombies so they can pin you very easily. Kill to stop more being boosted, already boosted remain boosted
  • Bull - armoured guy, headshot to smash the face plate, or shoot in the back (easier). Will charge and grab you
  • Juggernaut - like a bull but wearing heavy armour, will charge and knock you over.
Two 'currencies' earnt from doing missions, and daily/weekly challenges
Multiple different classes, with leveling to unlock perks. Some you get a choice of, others you are just given. Prestige to get more of the ones which are just given to you.
Each class has a usable skill - might be deploy claymore, throw molotov, throw grenade, taser etc etc
Each skill is limited use, can find 'equipment bags' to top up.
Multiple different guns, split into 3 types - primary, seconday and heavy. Heavy have limited ammo. More weapons can be found during a mission, including heavy.
Guns have levels. Increasing levels increase stats, also it will add silencers at some point so your guns don't draw zeke.
Guns have 'bonus' perks that can be unlocked by doing certain things. Some might just be spend blue currency, others might be get collectables in daily/weekly

There are normally hold points during missions which have deployable defenses - barbed wire, electrical grids, stationary machine gun, automated machine gun, fence. It depends what you get given.
There are also about 6 horde mode maps IIRC.

Think that sums it up.


Vermintide 2

Can't remember the state of the DLCs, I think you all need to own it but I wouldn't swear to it, I feel like it may have changed to needing it. Double check!
DLC includes more missions, different game modes, more weapons, new character classes and lastly, skins.

Not fighting zombies, you're fighting ratties from warhammer! And chaos! And beastmen (if you have the DLC)!

It's a melee focused PvE game (now also has PvP). There are ranged weapons, but ammo is less available unless you play a more ranged class - or wizard. Also a grenades, health items, and buff potions are items you can find during a mission.

5 different characters with their own flavour and they do have banter during the matches. Each character has by default 3 different classes (an extra with each character DLC).
Different classes do play differently, as well as different characters.
Multiple missions available.
Different types of each race of enemies.
So you'll get basic rats with just a weapon, some with weapon and shield, some in armour, some in armour and a shield, some crazy ones that will proceed to try and do a flurry of slashes at you.
Chaos you'll get similar, basic with a weapon, then some with shields, then an executioner style with a big axe, a chaos warrior in heavy armour, and a berserker wielding dual axes that will run and jump at you.
Beastmen - honestly can't remember much. Archers, guys with melee weapons and banner carriers that'll put down a banner and buff all the others.
You'll get 'monsters' - big baddies that are kinda like a tank, but there's a few different types that fight differently and they're bigger in size vs a tank
You'll get bosses in some missions, each with different attacks IIRC.
There are also "special" enemies, these include (again names are probably wrong)
  • Assassin - it's a hunter, but it can't bounce and it can go invisible
  • packmaster - it has a big grabby stick, he'll come and grab you, drag you off and you can do nothing. Other enemies will attack you. He'll then hoist you up
  • Warpfire thrower - it's a flamer rat
  • Rattling gunner - it's a rat with a big minigun
  • Globardier - throws globes into the air to come back down and smash around you putting out poison gas
  • Blightstormer - creates a damaging tornado that will hurt as well as picking you up and throwing you somewhere. They're not always immediately visible as they can do so from afar
  • Leech - will teleport in and "Shang Tsung" you. Picking you up and leeching your soul from you

There are multiple weapons that can be unlocked, one handed swords, sword and shield, two handed sword, flail, mace, halbard, spear, spear and shield, axes. There's a fair few.
There's weapon crafting and tiers of weapons
There are also stats for your weapons i.e. increased crit chance, increased crit damage, x% increase to *enemy type*
Later tiers of items add effects (which i can't think of any off the top of my head)
Also some other equipable items for more stats.
Your character also has levels - which will increase your damage. No prestiging though.
You will need to level each character seperately, and their weapons are not shared. Their other equipable items are though IIRC.

Melee attacks will require you to aim a bit - it's not skyrim swing and hope for the best. That said, I'm not great at the game and get by - it's not Chivalry for example. But each weapon can feel different and enemy armour does mean you might need to think a bit about how to fight something - heavy attack, different attack, shield bash etc

Ranged has multiple weapons too, guns, crossbow, normal bow, flamethrower, fire pistols. Some are unique to classes not just characters, though i think this applies to melee weapons too.

The wizard - the wizard is a bit different, and works like the flamethrower and fire pistols. They have no ammo, but have a heat bar. Fill it up and you blow up going down.

Each class has a different special ability, and skill tree (though there's some overlap between classes and characters)
Your main ability is on a cooldown after use and then can be reused.

Chaos Wastes - my preferred game mode! Was a free adition to the game, and has a random element to the game. The maps are semi random and you progress through a run picking a path, each map may have a "unique" twist to it, shown on the map. Weapons start of as rubbish tier, and you collect coins during each map. Coins can then be spent on upgrading a weapon to a specific tier, swaping your weapons for a random of a specific tier, getting a new random skill (might be awful) and buying items on the shop spots on the map. There are also challenge chests that award you with a choice of perk for free.

There's another game mode called weaves (i think). It's not free, it's part of a DLC. I'm not sure anyone plays it much, it was a semi random map so a bit like a precursor to chaos wastes but there is some progression. Not really done much on it.

There's also a horde mode map - I don't play that tbh.
There's also PvP, which I've not tried.
I think I've got everything.

Darktide - this will be short(ish), mostly because of the overlap with V2.

I've played it the least
It's basically the 40k version of Vermintide. It's more gun orientated, but melee plays a role in it too.

Only 4 classes IIRC, with skill trees, though there's more to the skill trees than in V2. Though there are not other classes for the 'characters'. I say 'characters' because while they're different, there's not really much banter between them, so unlike V2 which feels like there's kinda a story there, here it's not really a thing. But the characters are slightly unique.

Varied enemies and monsters. Again there are bosses.

You get a regenerating shield that stops you taking health damage until it depletes.
Ranged enemies can wreck you fast if you're unlucky/unprepared.

Ranged combat is good, IMO, but melee isn't quite as good as V2, but there's not much in it.

No DLC for it AFAIK, they do special events.
AFAIK there's no private game mode - but it might have been changed as it's been a while since i've played. You're thrown into an online instance when you load up, and there are other players.
There's a witch-esque enemy.
There missions that have modifiers - one get rid of a lot of the lights making it very dark, I take a flashlight for it, it's pretty seeing all the lasers etc in dim light. Until you're brutally murdered.
That's it I think.
NB - the music for it fits really well IMO. Atmosphere is really good too.
I feel like I may have undersold darktide with my limited wall of text. It's a very good game, and atmosphere is probably the best of the 3, but out of the three it's probably my least favourite. Though that's more because I like the other two a fair amount.

If you've got the Augmented Steam plugin - or just look on isthereanydeal.com - you'll see that they can all be had cheaper than what steam is currenly selling them (even V2)
 
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