Legal use of Body Cameras.

bloodhunter · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:38

OK i will keep this short. As with most places of work there are cameras placed around them for the security and protection of the work place and the staff within.
As a member of staff am i legally allowed to wear a body camera for my own protection and security as surely its classed as PPE and can any footage be used as evidence in a court should it be needed.

Begbie · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:39

bloodhunter said:
OK i will keep this short. As with most places of work there are cameras placed around them for the security and protection of the work place and the staff within.
As a member of staff am i legally allowed to wear a body camera for my own protection and security as surely its classed as PPE and can any footage be used as evidence in a court should it be needed.

If it's private property, then it's fully up to your workplace. Public property, do as you please.

Diddums · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:40

My entourage handles my filming needs.

Nasher · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:43

Cameras in the work place are not to protect the staff. They are to protect the business from the staff. Don't be fooled

[FnG]magnolia · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:46

OP SO good

jigger · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:49

I suppose it would depend. You’d have to define what you meant by protection.

Diddums · 22 Oct 2023 at 11:49

[FnG]magnolia said:
OP SO good

cheesefest · 22 Oct 2023 at 12:27

I wear a camera if I’m on checkouts or kiosk. They also record audio, which standard CCTV doesn’t. So can ban someone for racist/sexist/other disgusting attitudes and have their voice as evidence.

Have used the camera 6 times - 6 times too many.

Efour · 22 Oct 2023 at 12:46

cheesefest said:
I wear a camera if I’m on checkouts or kiosk. They also record audio, which standard CCTV doesn’t. So can ban someone for racist/sexist/other disgusting attitudes and have their voice as evidence.

Have used the camera 6 times - 6 times too many.

Upload for a laugh?

Thekwango · 22 Oct 2023 at 12:47

cheesefest said:
I wear a camera if I’m on checkouts or kiosk. They also record audio, which standard CCTV doesn’t. So can ban someone for racist/sexist/other disgusting attitudes and have their voice as evidence.

Have used the camera 6 times - 6 times too many.

You were a bodycam, working in the supermarket? Where is this supermarket, Gaza?!

Deleted User 234324 · 22 Oct 2023 at 12:56

Thekwango said:
You were a bodycam, working in the supermarket? Where is this supermarket, Gaza?!

Don't be silly, Israel have already blown them all up.

But,

Most supermarkets use some form of body work camera system now, the security certainly do and some problem areas now let the normal staff use them also.

Crime, specifically theft and assault on staff is getting extremely bad in some places so it's become a necessity.

potatolord · 22 Oct 2023 at 13:05

Thekwango said:
You were a bodycam, working in the supermarket? Where is this supermarket, Gaza?!

My guess is Kirkby.

Thekwango · 22 Oct 2023 at 13:06

potatolord said:
My guess is Kirkby.

Ah yes. Makes sense

Rroff · 22 Oct 2023 at 13:08

Thekwango said:
You were a bodycam, working in the supermarket? Where is this supermarket, Gaza?!

Most UK supermarkets have implemented them in the last year or so, with differing policies as to usage.

Wearing your own at work is another story again and can be legally complicated. (For example where I work even when around general public there are all kinds of data protection angles).

cheesefest · 22 Oct 2023 at 16:57

Efour said:
Upload for a laugh?

Fraid we don’t have access to the footage.

cheesefest · 22 Oct 2023 at 17:03

Rroff said:
Most UK supermarkets have implemented them in the last year or so, with differing policies as to usage.

Wearing your own at work is another story again and can be legally complicated. (For example where I work even when around general public there are all kinds of data protection angles).

We had cameras introduced as customers are getting ruder, more impatient and more aggressive.

The pandemic has a lot to answer for the increase in the above.

There is nothing positive to achieve from acting like that towards shop staff.

It only:
. Makes us upset
. Upsets other customers and colleagues if inappropriate language is used
. Customers have to wait longer to be served
. May be asked to leave or get banned.

Semple · 22 Oct 2023 at 17:03

Thekwango said:
You were a bodycam, working in the supermarket? Where is this supermarket, Gaza?!

You'd be pretty naive to think you can go many places in the UK now and not be recorded.

Thekwango · 22 Oct 2023 at 17:08

Semple said:
You'd be pretty naive to think you can go many places in the UK now and not be recorded.

I never mentioned surprise at being recorded. I’m quite aware you can’t sneeze outside without it being recorded. My surprise is more that staff have taken to wearing bodycams in supermarkets.

Werewolf · 22 Oct 2023 at 17:33

Thekwango said:
I never mentioned surprise at being recorded. I’m quite aware you can’t sneeze outside without it being recorded. My surprise is more that staff have taken to wearing bodycams in supermarkets.

Given some of what both my nephews have told me in the past (one worked in Tesco the other Morrisons), i'm not surprised they're in use now, even if the stores don't care about their staff (they don't really), they do care about things like theft and damage and a body worn camera is going to get a much better view of a lot of stuff, and potentially continuous where other camera might have blind spots.

I think it's hit the point where some non security staff in "common" areas of hospitals now wear them as well

which says a lot about how people behave.

Malevolence · 22 Oct 2023 at 18:14

Oh noes, are people being rude to the poor shop staff? They want to come and do a few weekend shifts in the ED. Lets see how they react to a dusthead throwing a full sick bowl at them.

Werewolf said:
I think it's hit the point where some non security staff in "common" areas of hospitals now wear them as well which says a lot about how people behave.

Not where I work they don't, only security have bodycams.