Legal - Which places have to provide free water?

knip · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:41

When I was at the football yesterday, they were actually confisgating soft drinks off people and forcing people to buy drinks inside...is that legal?

They had actually put a notice up on their website asking fans to make sure to bring plenty of water with them due to it being a hot day, yet when you got there, as you went through the turnstile, they took any drinks you had off you. Just wondered if its allowed or not, it is a licensed premises as they sell alcohol in other places in the ground, but these were soft drinks.

Dolph · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:43

knip said:
When I was at the football yesterday, they were actually confisgating soft drinks off people and forcing people to buy drinks inside...is that legal?

They had actually put a notice up on their website asking fans to make sure to bring plenty of water with them due to it being a hot day, yet when you got there, as you went through the turnstile, they took any drinks you had off you. Just wondered if its allowed or not, it is a licensed premises as they sell alcohol in other places in the ground, but these were soft drinks.

Did they sell cans/bottles inside or only cardboard cups? If just the latter, they could argue it's a safety issue...

Glaucus · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:44

knip said:
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off course it's legal.

knip · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:46

Dolph said:
Did they sell cans/bottles inside or only cardboard cups? If just the latter, they could argue it's a safety issue...

They sold bottles but they give you them without the caps on, my point was that they actually told people to bring them with them, which a lot of people did, and do every week due to the extortionate prices of drinks inside the ground.
And they only sell bottled water, they dont give it away for free, are the legally required to give it away free then as they are licensed?

Glaucus · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:48

knip said:
They sold bottles but they give you them without the caps on, my point was that they actually told people to bring them with them, which a lot of people did, and do every week due to the extortionate prices of drinks inside the ground.

Just write them a letter complaining, maybe they'll give you some vouchers or a discount. But it's there premises, then can decide what is and isn't allowed in.

Dolph · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:48

knip said:
They sold bottles but they give you them without the caps on, my point was that they actually told people to bring them with them, which a lot of people did, and do every week due to the extortionate prices of drinks inside the ground.
And they only sell bottled water, they dont give it away for free, are the legally required to give it away free then as they are licensed?

It's a conspiracy to confiscate stuff then sell it back to you.

knip · 12 Aug 2007 at 16:51

AcidHell2 said:
Just write them a letter complaining, maybe they'll give you some vouchers or a discount. But it's there premises, then can decide what is and isn't allowed in.

The reason im asking is im part of a supporters group who regularly get involved in fans issues so im wondering if it is illegal so we can go to the club and inform them that it is. Surely to say one thing and do another isnt on? Are they legally required to provide tap water free on request?

It's a conspiracy to confiscate stuff then sell it back to you.

Yup, I had two halfs of coke in the pub down the road for less than the price a bottle of coke inside the ground would cost me.

Vicar · 12 Sep 2007 at 21:18

Working for Scottish Water, last Water utility still in public hands in the UK, You still pay for Water through Council tax, but as a basic human right, your water will not be turned of even if you dont pay your council tax. Unlike Eletricity or Gas. All tap Water is monitored from the Water Treatment Works to supply to clean and healthy enough to drink. Its pretty tight regulations across the UK.

Just thought I would add that bit in.

Regards

Vic

Gaverick · 12 Sep 2007 at 22:06

When I went to see Tiesto in Edinburgh you could only get bottled water and it was £2 a bottle :eek:

Then to make matters worse they ran out at 1am :eek:

Dave85 · 12 Sep 2007 at 22:16

when we where at faithless at the secc they where throwing bottle into crowd and big cups. we did need it though

Deadly Ferret · 12 Sep 2007 at 22:49

Dolph said:
It is quite possible that it's a local licence condition, rather than an instrinsic part of the licencing rules.

Yes, it will be a condition of the premises licence.

I am a personal licence holder, and achieved 100% in the qualification required to become one. The Licensing Act 2003 is geared purely towards ensuring the licensing objectives are met, and unlike the previous licensing law doesn't delve deeply into minutiae such as this.

Nowhere in the whole of the source material for the NCPLH is there mention of tap water. I read that guide completely three times in preparation for the exam.

I believe, though I am not certain, that it was a requirement under the old licensing laws. All of those were replaced by the 2003 act though.