Lens systems - what is "enough"?

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Ok, I've been thinking about this for a while but imagine that you could start from a blank sheet to design a system what do you think is necessary & at what level?

I suggest that we do it for APS-C crop sensors first & then if that is successful FF later.
I imagine 4 levels (let's call them "average punter", "hobby", "serious enthusiast", "professional & exotics" for now) but I'm open to arguments for more/fewer levels & different positioning. I also expect a certain amount of boundary blurring/overlap & difference of opinion as some people will tend towards normal & wide & some towards the tele end according to their subject preference.
Suggested products have to be in believable pricing territory (as evidenced by what is currently available on the market) - unfortunately no professional 600/4s for £200 :p - & I suspect that it's probably simpler to ignore the question of IS or we'll get bogged down in arguments about in-lens v in-body :rolleyes:

e.g. for "average punter" I reckon that you could cover it with kit level ~18-55mm 3.5-5.6, 55-200mm 4-5.6, 70/75-300mm 4.5-5.6 & a superzoom e.g 18-200/250mm 3.5 - 5.6/6.3.

"hobby" is going to maybe add something like a 50/1.8 (although of course on APS-C that's somewhat longer than a standard & becomes more of a portrait lens), something in the 30mm f1.8/2/f2.8 region as a standard to match the human eye's view & so forth.

etc. etc.

So, let's see what your thoughts on a perfect, commercially sensible lens system would be :D

Also, feel free to suggest if you want to in what order that you think products should be introduced.
 
My lens system as of next week for my 40D is:

Tokina 11-16 F2.8
Tamron 17-50 F2.8
Sigma 70-200 F2.8
Canon 55-250 F4-5.6 IS
Sigma 150mm Macro

Basically 11-200mm (18-320 35 mm format?) all at F2.8 (more useful in low light and generally 'better' lenses as more 'build quality' is required for the f2.8, stopped down to f4 etc for brighter conditions, these lenses become very good for the money. The IS lens is amazing picture quality up there with the sigma and with IS so good for day light and lighter walk about lens.

So I guess that is a hobby boarding on intermediate/serious amateur.
 
Do you use the 55-250 much considering you have the Sigma 70-200?



My Current *system* involves a Sigma 10-20, 17-85IS, 30mm f/1.4, Sigma 70-200 and the 18-55IS kitlens which I only use with my macro extension tubes as its the best macro ration I can get with what I have :)
 
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For me as a hobbyist my ideal set up would be:

Tokina 11-16 2.8 - Soon, I hope
Tamron 17-50 f2.8 - Not needed for now, but at some time in the future
Canon 50mm f1.8 - Got that
Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro - And that
Canon 70-200 f4 (IS or 2.8 preferred, but out of my price range for a hobby) - And that :p
1.4x TC
Flash Gun - I have a dg st 500 but would like a 430EX
 
Do you use the 55-250 much considering you have the Sigma 70-200?

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Is what im getting next week ;), im not sure as of yet, the previous 70-200's iv used obviously require more skill being non IS and while can get amazing results they take a little more thought time, i may sell the canon but for a 'point and shoot'/take up a mountain zoom, its size weight and image quality are awesome, it has slightly more reach, ill see how I go, the sigma is to help in doors , weddings concerts etc where the canon lets itself down being f5.6.
 
hmm, id consider myself serious enthusiast so heres what id like

Tokina 11-16 2.8 - very very soon!
Tamron 17-50 f2.8 - already got, lovely lens
Canon 50mm f1.8 - already got, great lens
Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro - gonna be getting very very soon
and im gonna have to agree with raikiri, as a non professional:-
Canon 70-200 f4 + 1.4x TC
580 ex II - tbh, for the small price upgrade you get so much more, being a wireless master

Personally, L quality lenses are far beyond my reach, unless I make money from a hobby, in which case they are investments :) so all i can do is grab the almost L quality lenses and try not to get camera envy at that little red ring :<
 
Student budget:

Second hand 400d, came with kitlens which is good for learning the basics, also fun to turn it round and use it as a macro, no idea about any of the ratio's but I had to get close to focus.

Tamron 17-50 f2.8 - straight replacement for kitlens, much sharper, faster. If you're planning on getting a wider lens and want longer from the kit replacement consider the 28-75 f2.8.

canon 50 f1.8 - so cheap everyone should have one. Such a fast light lens I love using it when around friends taking those non-posed shots that feel natural.

Specialising:

sigma 10-20 - just a fun lens to use, feels solid and IQ is not bad. I use this lens a lot more than I thought I would

Not sure what I want to go for next, a flashgun to go along side the 17-50, a zoom lens (100-300IS) or upgrade to 40d. zoom is not as important to me as I'm not doing anything currently that needs the reach, although that could change.
 
I've been at this long enough that I should be 'serious enthusiast' but I'm probably slipping towards 'hobby'. I'm just not prepared to carry the weight of a full system any more but I'm fortunate to be able to afford what I want. What I've got is:

Nikon 12-24mm f4
Nikon 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VR
Nikon 70-300 f4.5-5.6 VR
Nikon 105mm f2.8 VR Macro
Sigma 50-150mm f2.8
Nikon 85mm f1.8 that I never use
About a grand in flashguns!

I'm not sure about the Sigma yet as it kept locking up on its first major outing but I've fiddled with the focus mode on the D90 and can't reproduce the problem now. It'll get another try on Monday at the local street festival.

I'm going to have a look at the Sigma 150mm Macro as soon as my 'local' shop gets one in for me.
 
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I'd call myself an average punter / hobbyist.

Current system

Canon 450D
Canon 18 - 55 IS f3.5 - 4.5
Canon 70 - 300 IS USM f4 - 5.6 (regretting not getting the 70 - 200 f4 instead)
Canon 100 macro f2.8
Canon 28 - 105 f3.5 - 4.5
Canon 35 - 105 f3.5 - 5.6

Looking to get the Canon 10 - 20 f3.5 - 4.5 soon and something to replace the kit lens with :)
 
My setup is currently as follows I would consider myself hobbyist but started out with a kit lens and cheap Sigma 70-300

Canon 30D
Canon 50 f1.8 II
Sigma 17-70 f2.8
Canon 70-200 F4 L
Speedlite 430ex
Various filters and cleaning kit and cheapo bag.

All this is in mint condition that I picked up 2nd hand and stands me at rougly £1050 which I think is pretty good value for the quality of kit.
 
As a hobbyist (although not being doing it long at all):

I have:

• Tamron 17-50mm ƒ/2.8 (& a shiny new 67mm Hoya Pro 1 CP Filter to go with it :))
• Canon 55-250mm IS
• Canon 50mm ƒ/1.8
• Tamron 90mm ƒ/2.8 Macro

That is what I have, but would swap the 55-250mm for a 70-200 ƒ/4 IS if I could, very very happy with everything else :)
 
I guess I'm a serious enthusiast.

Kit consists of:

Canon 40D

Canon 430EX II

Canon f/1.8 50mm

Tamron f/2.8 17-50

Canon L f/4 70-200

A few CP's and UV filters, loads of Extreme III CF cars and a bag full or 2700mah batteries for the flash.

Future upgrades willl be a wide angle, macro lens and hopefully a nice prime or uber zoom.
 
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I am just startng up (as a hobbyist) and my equipment is :-

Nikon D300
Nikon 14-24 f2.8
Nikon 24-70 f2.8
&
Nikon 70-200 f2.8

Nikon Speedlight (SB 900) and a macro lens to get in future.

The reason I got the uber expensive lenses is that I will be jumping ship to fx camera in future.
 
My lens system is enough for me for now, the only thing I'd want to "upgrade" is the kit lens but it does me fine for what I use it for.

D200
Nikon 18-70 kit
Nikon 70-200 VR
Nikon 80-400 VR
Nikon 1.8 50
Tokina 100 Macro
Tokina 12-24

It's enough anyway, cover any application I'd want. I haven't used it anywhere near as much as I'd like in the last 12 months either...
 
Only recently got into this properly so at the moment am just using my 500Ds 18-55 IS kit lens, which is great for most things I do at the moment but I do want a decent zoom lens at some point.
 
I thought this was a discussion about your ideal, realistic lens line up, not a list your equipment thread.
 
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