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FIA make the rules,imagine if FOTA did breakaway [not beyond the realms of possibility trust me] What would you have us do?
 
  • Decent tracks that are very different from each other.
  • Maybe less core tracks and more changeable tracks. Like 14 core + 1 from each continent.
  • Racing without stupid investigations, less SC in wet, but allow set up change if track is wet 30mins before start of race, or how ever long it would take. To change to a reasonable wet set up.
    Or race is happening regardless, if you want to pit and start fiddling then go for it.
  • punishments.
  • Any investigations not within the last 10mins of the race, has to be decided before the end.
  • One element for front and rear wing with no winglets.
  • Ground effect or other affects to provide downforce whilst minimising/not being effected by dirty aero.
  • A better balance between, mechanical/aero/bhp drivers should be able to spin the wheels up and not go round a corner full throttle. What we have at the moment is not enough bhp, or far to much grip.
  • Derestriction on engines and kers. Only stipulation is set maximum fuel limit.
    Allowance in the rules for electrical, hydrogen and other fuel sources.
  • If it's not strictly against the rules it is allowed till the end of the season.
  • If it is against the rules ban and don't let them race, simples.
  • more rules allowing useful technology to be developed wet ere it's for cars or other industries, preferably with a green edge, or very infant technology.
Think that's about it.
 
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Honestly I don't know. I want you guys to be given freedom to do what you do best, invent and create crazy **** that makes cars go fast. On the flip side, with less restrictions I'd fear that only those teams with mega bucks would be able to take part to a degree. Though if more of the money went to the teams then they could all probably compete just fine


Ultimately I want you all to sit down, all the dudes with brains like planets, and work out exactly what few rules you would need to put in place so that

a) a car can follow fairly close behind another in a fast corner
b) you don't spend every minute and every £ in the wind tunnel trying to achieve 100% aero efficiency
c) cars can't go flat through Turn 8 and maybe even 130R.
d) cars remain safe. So that probably means still not allowing them much over 200mph ish by whatever means be it aero limiting or maybe fuel flow limiting or whatever.
e) costs are not so exorbitant that only 5 teams can compete.

And finally stop going to circuits that don't offer overtaking opportunities. I'm sorry that that probably includes Monaco for the most part but that's what I think.

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Well as far as i am concerned you are racing.You wouldn't tell a 100M sprinter he can only consume so much Oxygen.

But if you strap a 3 litre engine to your RB Vettel would be going much much faster wouldn't he? I think there would need to be something which prevents TOO much speed if only for the safety of the drivers. I know they are all mad for the danger anyway but we don't want to see nasty accidents because something snapped or went wrong at 250mph. Its bad enough at 200.

What do YOU think we should see in a breakaway series?

I'd love to see someone rock up with a hydrogen engine or something though.
 
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As it forces better technology that is semi relevant to the real world and it makes alternative fuels more attractive, as they are such new and untried technologies would have less restrictions.
I don't think f1 is purly, build the best you can with no regs. I think f1 is build the best you can within the rules, that should have real world use for some of the tech something we have lost. As 99% is just trick parts or finding the last 0.5% aero.

It would be nice to see a all out race with few rules, but it wouldn't work and wouldn't last. Or would last with like two entries.

Also I think we can go faster than 200 and maintain safety, just look at how much safety has increased, it's far out stripped the speed increase. I'm sure you could make cars safe at 250.
 
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It would be good to go back to the V10 and turbos but going with a fuel limit. Also investigations to be completed within 10 or 15 laps or no action can be taken. Wider tyres would also help get the mechanical grip back which could push the less reliance on aero.
 
Honestly I don't know. I want you guys to be given freedom to do what you do best, invent and create crazy **** that makes cars go fast. On the flip side, with less restrictions I'd fear that only those teams with mega bucks would be able to take part to a degree. Though if more of the money went to the teams then they could all probably compete just fine


Ultimately I want you all to sit down, all the dudes with brains like planets, and work out exactly what few rules you would need to put in place so that

a) a car can follow fairly close behind another in a fast corner
b) you don't spend every minute and every £ in the wind tunnel trying to achieve 100% aero efficiency
c) cars can't go flat through Turn 8 and maybe even 130R.
d) cars remain safe. So that probably means still not allowing them much over 200mph ish by whatever means be it aero limiting or maybe fuel flow limiting or whatever.

And finally stop going to circuits that don't offer overtaking opportunities. I'm sorry that that probably includes Monaco for the most part but that's what I think.

A quote once forwarded to me, " You know how to make a small fortune from F1? Start with a large one"

Nothing else i can add with regard to your piost
 
It would be good to go back to the V10 and turbos but going with a fuel limit. Also investigations to be completed within 10 or 15 laps or no action can be taken. Wider tyres would also help get the mechanical grip back which could push the less reliance on aero.

Do you think that they have not being trying to achieve this for years? Everyone says more mechanical grip, it wont work. Designers will circumnavigate any rules. Wider tyres,ok,we will change the aero and a team will find a loophole.Its what F1 is, if the rules are not pushed to the limit,then whats the point?

Forget the 2013 1.6 turbo era, the big boys dont give a flying **** about it as they know it wont happen,if the FIA push for it [which they wont] they will be left wifh GP2 and made a laughing stock.

I want to see the racing we had in the early 80's but, things move on. Life is like that,you adapt and change.
 
Does that mean you agree or understand me or that i'm going to get beaten up at some point this week? lol

Not at all, F1 at the end of the day is a business,wether in our case its a marketing exercise [we are just a fizzy drinks company] afterall,or your a car producer.The end result is you invest a lot of money for bragging rights. Thats all it boils down to.
 
Not at all, F1 at the end of the day is a business,wether in our case its a marketing exercise [we are just a fizzy drinks company] afterall,or your a car producer.The end result is you invest a lot of money for bragging rights. Thats all it boils down to.

If you were the man writing the rule book for 2013, do you think you and your competitors would end up spending more money though?
 
Yes.Whats wrong with that? Madrid pay Ronaldo something like 35m a year yet,the FIA propose running a team of 400 people,plus develop 2 racing cars on 40m.Who is the crazy one?
 
If you were the man writing the rule book for 2013, do you think you and your competitors would end up spending more money though?

I don't think so, teams spend every penny they can get. New rules won't suddenly bring in new money, unless it opens up avenues.
 
Yes.Whats wrong with that? Madrid pay Ronaldo something like 35m a year yet,the FIA propose running a team of 400 people,plus develop 2 racing cars on 40m.Who is the crazy one?

Them. They always have been. But also have to take fia with a pinch of salt. Half the stuff they want, they don't really. It's just dangling a carrot for the teams. To make compromises.
 
I would love you to see the material PO/s alone to realize how crazy the FIA are.They think nothing of charging circuits like Abu Dhabi 26mil to host a one off event yet expect the people competing to do it on a shoestring. As far as the teams[FOTA] are concerned,the FIA are a joke.
 
Right,will check the thread tomorrow got to goto bed as i have work tomorrow [unpaid of course] wouldnt want to break the RRS!!!!
 
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