They still get you from A to B but what do you expect, pay little get little.
Let's hear it for Ryanair
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They still get you from A to B but what do you expect, pay little get little.
I agree. The trouble is people have become so used to paying less than a taxi ride into town that they expect these cheap fares as par for the course. Then kick up when the service is pants.
For instance my father in law asked me to book him a flight back from hungary with easyJet and then when I told him the price was £60 moaned it was more than he expected and was too pricey. **** me he's a taxi driver and charges double that for a fare to the airport.
I don't fly Ryanair because I know first hand the commercial pressure they put on their pilots and engineers. They are on a year by year contract and if you did your job properly and stopped an aircraft flying you wouldn't have a job the next year if you did this too many times.
For instance my father in law asked me to book him a flight back from hungary with easyJet and then when I told him the price was £60 moaned it was more than he expected and was too pricey. **** me he's a taxi driver and charges double that for a fare to the airport.
I don't fly Ryanair because I know first hand the commercial pressure they put on their pilots and engineers. They are on a year by year contract and if you did your job properly and stopped an aircraft flying you wouldn't have a job the next year if you did this too many times.
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I don't fly Ryanair either - as I want a full service airline. I pay more for this as a result, though. RyanAir prices give you a seat. They are never anything other than totally honest about this.
It's like booking a Travelodge and moaning that there is no room service!
It's like booking a Travelodge and moaning that there is no room service!
Exactly no more than stories because the ***** **** that runs the airline believes any publity is good publicity.
The papers run these stories as fact even though there's no way he could fly with passengers standing.
It's a great marketing plan. He delibately comes across as being the biggest cheapskate in the world - things like charging for toilets etc etc and as a result 'cheap flight' and 'Ryanair' are now almost as linked as 'Vacuum Cleaner' and 'Hoover'..
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Yep, I know plenty of my mates have worked for Ryanair and will have an aircraft with a problem in one country, say france. They will whack an engineer on a plane bound for spain and divert with a lie to drop the engineer off. They couldn't give a **** about the passengers, running this way stops them needing engineers on the ground where needed and keeps the seats at £5.
If people really gave a **** about safety and service they would stop giving them their money. Everyone knows they carry snags until the last leg of the day and barely get away with it by running new aircraft and selling them on when they hit 4-5 years old.
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****** run Europe's third largest airline? Wow.
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If you only pay to go on an amazingly ***** airline, you can hardly complain when you get a rubbish service.
Its exactly the same as if you paid £100 for a motorcar. Honestly, what would you expect? Of course it's going to be shocking, but it's darn cheap.
I think Ryanair fills a gap in the market, I think the problem is basically people believe aircraft flights are a homogenous product.
Its exactly the same as if you paid £100 for a motorcar. Honestly, what would you expect? Of course it's going to be shocking, but it's darn cheap.
I think Ryanair fills a gap in the market, I think the problem is basically people believe aircraft flights are a homogenous product.
Not ******, a *****. So what it's europes third biggest, does that make them the best all of a sudden. Mcdonalds run more resturants than Gordon Ramsey, naturally the food must be better then?
Yet Ryanair come bottom of just about every survey. People need to stop using them but they won't.
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A ***** has turned a company worth £100s millions into a £4.5billion company? Wow.
Nope, but 60m+ people use them every year, so they're doing something right.
Not once have I suggested Ryanair "are the best" airline or offer quality on par with a Gordon Ramsay restaurant vs a McDonalds one. I am making the point that they are doing plenty right, being Europe's third largest airline, worth £4.5billion.
I presume he was being sarcastic.
But he raises a point. What puts me off budget airlines are the people wearing sombreros and "LADS ON TOR INNIT" t-shirts communicating to each other with shouts, despite being two centimetres from each other. The kind of people who will pay £extortionate to be able to drink Stella on their flight (can't they wait? are they that desperate for a can of crap lager?). Basically, the kind of people who the Pukka Pie sellers are targeting in Spain
*snobbish rant over*
I'd say that's not reserved solely to budget flights though.
I flew with BA last month to Malaga, and despite the fact our flight was at 9:30am, there was already a group who were drinking and one of them quite openly acknowledged that she was drunk while waiting in the que to get on the plane; she couldn't wait to get on, drink some more and pass out.
You can also have just as many problems with people of a higher social class. I've flown in BA business class a few times and on a busy business route, you've got a whole business cabin full of people trying to stuff there carry on bags, on the edge of what you can get away with. You've got people trying to still make business calls while the stewards have to come around and repeatedly tell them to switch it off due to take off.
Last time I flew, I had the poshest women I've ever sat next to who decided to get into some silly argument with the cabin crew, spouting a load of crap at them about paying their wages and such. She got in such a tiff that she eventually asked me to ask for stuff for her, because she didn't want to speak to them anymore.
All I'm trying to say is that douchebags exist whether you fly budget or not.
Why do we need to stop using them? I find them very useful.
Think it's a bit uncalled for calling the guy a *****. He is an Irish Business man who has done very well, not a traveler scum living in a caravan doing dodgy dealings.
Your argument about McDonalds & Gordon Ramsey is a bit silly. However, it does highlight one relevant issue and that is of a budget service and a premium service. If you eat at McDonalds, it gives you the same basic requirement, energy by means of food. With Gordon Ramsey you get the same, but for a premium price... much like if you can afford to take a premium flight over a budget one, you can do. It's about where you position yourself in the market and what the customer base needs.
People won't stop using them because they offer a good value service.
It would also be bad for everyone if they packed up shop because it means there is even less competition on the market for flight prices.
I can vouch that Ryanair really are the scum of the airline industry. They treat both their staff and passengers with total contempt and have no moral standards what so ever. I had an unpleasant experience of working for them and made a very hasty exit!
I would never fly them unless I had no other alternative and will happily pay over the odds to fly someone else (hell ANYONE else).
I would never fly them unless I had no other alternative and will happily pay over the odds to fly someone else (hell ANYONE else).
Ryanair has a lot of charges but the time I flew with them I knew all of them up front, I had seen a lot of people who had to rearrange suitcases as they were >15KG though.
For me Ryanair is like taking the bus, I expect nothing and I get nothing in terms of service.
For me Ryanair is like taking the bus, I expect nothing and I get nothing in terms of service.
The only thing uncalled for is that you're right he doesn't live in a caravan. He does more dodgy dealings than your average ***** though. The people working there concerned with aircraft safety the pilots and the engineers work with a level of threat.
As I say I know many engineers that work with them, only out of necessity until they find something else because some of the things happening there genuinely scare them. You can't employ semi skilled labour with no holiday, no sick pay and not expect safety concerns to arise.
As for comparing Ramsey and Mcdonalds it wasn't a silly comparison. The point was made they must be good or doing something right because they are so large in europe. Well so are mcdonalds but it doesn't mean the food is good. Of course when you go in you know that, the same is true with ryanair.
Which along with their attitude to safety and the filthy rumours they spread to try to put other hard working people out of jobs is why they don't get any of my money.
The one plus I always thought about working for them is the Hostesses seem to be of a higher quality to look at than lots of the other airline
That certainly seems to be true flying out of Mos Eisley.
Ryanair is a necessary evil.
Having an Irish girlfriend I pretty much have to use them many times a year.
I do of course know what I am getting, but I totally reserve the right to moan.
I continue to use them because I view them as a flying bus, and nothing more.
Everything about them is awful except for the core service, which is why I keep coming back. They get me from Gatwick to Dublin in an hour for very little money, and are rarely late.
However, the decor, service by staff, music, price of add ons, price of food and drink, website usability and company PR and ethics are questionable at best and awful at worse.
Fact remains, I continue to use them as they are the cheapest, most reliable way for me to see my girlfriend. If I have to close my eyes and put on headphones to drown out the experience - so be it.
Having an Irish girlfriend I pretty much have to use them many times a year.
I do of course know what I am getting, but I totally reserve the right to moan.
I continue to use them because I view them as a flying bus, and nothing more.
Everything about them is awful except for the core service, which is why I keep coming back. They get me from Gatwick to Dublin in an hour for very little money, and are rarely late.
However, the decor, service by staff, music, price of add ons, price of food and drink, website usability and company PR and ethics are questionable at best and awful at worse.
Fact remains, I continue to use them as they are the cheapest, most reliable way for me to see my girlfriend. If I have to close my eyes and put on headphones to drown out the experience - so be it.