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let's jump from n side to ati
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Didn't notice it with my 7950GX2 - easily gave the 8800GTS a run for its money and was often on the heels of the GTX.
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You have got to be kidding me this would be a new low if they did. I don't think so though i think the driver team has just done a bad job as the new geforce cards could be nearly 2 months away or q1 2010 so it seems unlikely.
then why do you suspect nvidia might 'degrade the drivers on all older hardware to make people jump to the new cards when they are out'?
op, maybe the card is just broke?
Well they haven't exactly been making some sensible decisions of late... and the latest drivers seem to be getting worse and worse... at this point I wouldn't put it past them... given the wannabe hitler like decision making lately.
wannabe hitler? such as?
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Where have you been lately?
Well I must admit the last nvidia card I owned was the GPU I have used for the least amount of time ( <3 months) due to the fact the nvidia drivers really were a pos for it and the worst I'd encountered since the days of ATI rage pro cards.
The Card btw was the 8800Gt and the only driver that ever did HDR + AA (something nvidia boasted about at the time) in the games I played was the one that came with the card every other one just black screened or crashed
The Card btw was the 8800Gt and the only driver that ever did HDR + AA (something nvidia boasted about at the time) in the games I played was the one that came with the card every other one just black screened or crashed
By trying to dictate what hardware their customers can use in their own PCs that have nothing to do with nVidia.
The Hitler comparison is a bit extreme, but I suppose it's still some what relevant.
nVidia are trying to tell people what they want. They're badly corrupt and it's getting worse.
You cannot always blame the drivers!
What type of monitor & cable do you use to connect as many gamers buy cheapo monitors with DVI cables which cannot handle modern graphic cards then blame the card
when its more often than not a cheapskate monitor brand & or your cable type DVI has several different types of cable & connector.......
you are referring to the inability of nvidia cards to be used for physx in the same system as an ati card?
This is the one example where I can look at a proven decision made by nvidia and say that is bang out of order. In an ideal world ppl who bought an nvidia card for this purpose whould be refunded, without doubt totally un-acceptable.
Othert than that I see there behaviour to be pretty sedate, I dunno, are their cards overpriced? at the high end hells yeah but they are suffering for it and I think now it is less about how much they are trying to grind out of ppl and more about their poor strategy in producing highly expensive gpu's.
I am just completely missing 'with the exception i mention' exactly what makes them 'so evil'
Well exactly, I did think the Hitler comparison was a bit extreme, but nVidia are dirty players.
They're not evil, not by a long shot, stupid, foolish and up themselves though? Yeah they are.
They gimped DX10 and tried to gimp any games that had DX10.1.
They're very anti-competitive. They don't seem to be able to do much right lately. They PR department has been in damage control overdrive and it's just making them look like a bunch of idiots lately.
We're all gamers in here, the most important thing to us should be what makes our gaming experience better.
nVidia just seem intent on making it as bad as possible for anyone who doesn't buy nVidia, that's out of line and I choose not to support them with my money.
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when you say making gamers experience worse on non-nvidia hardware I assume you are referring ot the whole batman AA issue? the thing is for the past few weeks there has been a lot of discussion about this, and i am yet to see anything concrete that says 100% nvidia influenced the game developer to 'effectively' sabotage ati cards when used to run the game.
Right now imo it is all just rumours and accusations. If they did do such a thing that must breach anti-competitive rules and we will surely be discussign that court case in the future but right now there are zero legal proceedings and it is just a rumour. (one that would surely involve eidos/rocksteady) now that would be weird.
Do nvidia suffer from all of the inevitable failings of a company left to dominate too much? sure they do, look at ms/intel who just totally dominate their respective fields, its always the way. I am just saying that looking at there recent history I dont feel (as a gamer) passionately upset with them as seems to be so common today.
I think it must just depend on the personal experience of the user, e.g if I was one of the ppl who bought an nvidia card to use for physx I would probably have a very very serious issue with nvidia, but I didnt os I have no problem with nvid
to me though is that nvidia being 'sinister' trying to make ati look bad, or are they just being pro-active about having a good relationship with developers. If ati started up a twimtbp program and all of a sudden specific games are performing considerably better on ati over nvidia cards, are ati being anti-compet or are they just giving an incentive to buy their cards over nvidia?
Taking that assassin creed example, just what is going on when a developer 'supposedly' removes features from a game at the behest of a damned gpu maker? my question is what are ati doing wrong to be so totally lacking influence
Even tho I think the whole batman issue has been blown out of all proportions and a lot of stuff mis-understood by people with a hate nVidia agenda...
There has been a lot of actions from high up in nVidia of late that remind me of hitlers' last days, giving orders to non-existant units, burying the head in teh sand, cutting off nose to spite face and then just plain trying to dictate what people do to prevent them doing stuff that disadvantages you or you disagree with...
Special in regards to physx and TWIMTBP program, 200 series supply/prices, publicity statements and so on - not all of it so readily apparent to the consumer...
There has been a lot of actions from high up in nVidia of late that remind me of hitlers' last days, giving orders to non-existant units, burying the head in teh sand, cutting off nose to spite face and then just plain trying to dictate what people do to prevent them doing stuff that disadvantages you or you disagree with...
Special in regards to physx and TWIMTBP program, 200 series supply/prices, publicity statements and so on - not all of it so readily apparent to the consumer...
More silent?
Aye far more silent, this card sits at 45-60 C with the fan only @ 40-50%... My 8800 used to be terrible, the cooler made very bad contact with the gpu I think, the card spend most of it's life between 75C ( idle) and 90C (in games it was always 85 or more) and during most games the fan would speed up to 100% and down again to it's standard 36%, creating ''whooshes'' every 5 seconds when the fan jumps to 100% for a sec then back to 36% again... The cards temp would only be lower than 60C if I put the fan manually on 70% or faster where it was very audible and even with 100% fan speed it never dropped to below 55C...
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