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Lets talk Filters :D

9designs2 said:
Shouldn't be taking pictures at mid day anyway !! LOL
.....I thought that was what HDR was for ;)
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Same applies if your taking shots of sunsets/sunrises. And HDR can be used to sort this issue out. But lets just say its not my preffered option. ;)
 
9designs2 said:
For a start the P system on the 24-105L...77mm vignettes, had to take the slimline Hoya filter off first... but still does it..... pictures to follow in a bit...
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Cut off the last two slots with a jnr hacksaw. Works a treat :) Can only use one filter at a time tho.
 
Ok a few pictures I just tried to show the effect, actually been good to try out, easy to get lazy in your old age....

With out filter,
withoutgrad.jpg


Now with filter

withgrad.jpg


You can see as mentioned above the slight colour cast in the upper clouds.
Plus the effect of balancing out the dynamic range, I have to confess for a "mild grad" it has a bigger effect on the foreground than I expected.

These are just straight out of the camera, no level correction or bright/contrast work (I did sharpen though, as I have all options turned off in the camera, "Faithfull" setting)..

Now at 24mm with holder, grad, and no screw-in on the lens.


Cokin24mm.jpg


Note the vignetting !! :(
So the P system I would say is not suitable, don't think there is much point trying on the 17-40 !!!
 
9designs2 said:
Ok a few pictures I just tried to show the effect, actually been good to try out, easy to get lazy in your old age....

With out filter,
withoutgrad.jpg


Now with filter

withgrad.jpg


You can see as mentioned above the slight colour cast in the upper clouds.
Plus the effect of balancing out the dynamic range, I have to confess for a "mild grad" it has a bigger effect on the foreground than I expected.

These are just straight out of the camera, no level correction or bright/contrast work (I did sharpen though, as I have all options turned off in the camera, "Faithfull" setting)..

Now at 24mm with holder, grad, and no screw-in on the lens.


Cokin24mm.jpg


Note the vignetting !! :(
So the P system I would say is not suitable, don't think there is much point trying on the 17-40 !!!
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Your example of photoshopping grad has made the image look overexposed and washed out.

You may need the Wide angle adapter and lets not forget. You are using a full frame sensor
 
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Fstop11 said:
Your example of photoshopping grad has made the image look overexposed and washed out.

You may need the Wide angle adapter and lets not forget. You are using a full frame sensor
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Errrr no "photoshopping" grads used !! it's with and without a Cokin P Grad 120

Wideangle adaptor ?
 
Fstop11 said:
Your example of photoshopping grad has made the image look overexposed and washed out.

You may need the Wide angle adapter and lets not forget. You are using a full frame sensor
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I think thats with an actual ND grad filter. ;)
 
This it, taken from the Cokin website

"Z/P Adapter (P362/P362M Wide Angle)
The Z/P adaptor lets you use "Z" Series filters with a "P" holder. Vignetting may nevertheless occur at short focal lengths."

After seeing the colour cast I doubt I'll use it !!!
 
Yep, it's an hour on over in Italy so sun was low.. :)
Tried it with CPL, and that was the best combination.....minor effect.
To use the Grad, would have been better to meter the shot without filter on manual, then slid it in place, to just darken the sky. I allowed the meter to "compensate" on AP, which was about 1.5 stops extra.

Just scared myself pricing up a LEE system on website.....

Wide angle Lens hood £162 :eek:

Think I could have coped with most of the other prices....but WTF !!!
Plus they don't list an 88mm adaptor for my 18mm CZ..would need the push on holder as well....
 
9designs2 said:
Think I could have coped with most of the other prices....but WTF !!!
Plus they don't list an 88mm adaptor for my 18mm CZ..would need the push on holder as well....
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Thats one thing Lee are good for. If you have the money, they will custom make any part for you. So if you have a strange lens, they will be able to make you a one off adaptor plate. but yeah, they are expensive.
 
Fstop11 said:
The LEE system is probably easily the best out there but it comes at a whooping cost and to someone being introduced into filters you prob want to try out first with some 15 quid filters before you start scratching 30/80 quid filters! :eek:
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I got a Lee system before I went to Scotland in May. Stupidly I didn't practice enough before I went and as a result hardly used the grad ND's I got although I've used the ND a few times. Placement is EVERYTHING with grad ND's and can be quite tricky to work out what level of filtering you need and where to place the transition within the frame. I now prefer to do all my shots in photoshop and just take two exposures of the scene which is a bit silly seeing as I paid out for all that Lee stuff!!

I'm going to get another ND for it though soon so I can do daylight long exposures.

ichabod crane said:
just been pricing up some kits and the price difference between the cokin and lee is MASSIVE, can they really be that significantly better!
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In a word, yes!

The Lee stuff is very very good though. Well built, no colour casts compared to Cokin, bigger filters so easier to handle and the holder can be customised to hold more or less filters. The Cokin stuff looks like it was built for little kids compared to the Lee stuff.

I have the wide angle adaptor which means I can use the full width of my 12-24 which is great...HOWEVER...I can't zoom my 28-70 properly with the adaptor on which is very annoying so I need a standard adaptor ring as well :(
 
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