LG CX or Samsung Q80T

Arcane · 19 Feb 2021 at 15:33

So if the Sony is 100hz how would that work with the series x 120hz mode? Would the VRR take over and run it at 100hz or would it drop down to 60hz? I used G-Sync Monitors back in the day but don't know if the xbox / tv combo would work similarly.

benjii · 19 Feb 2021 at 15:55

I'd wait for the new LG Evo panels this year, the advancements look really promising.

jpaul · 19 Feb 2021 at 21:24

Arcane said:
So if the Sony is 100hz

tv panels are usually max 60 or 120 for USA stds, and also do 50, 100 for the UK ... sony's I reffed do 120.

still haven't seen Billy lynns half time walk unique(still?) @120hz

PiKe · 20 Feb 2021 at 00:42

Apparently VRR is never coming to the Sony models.

Radox-0 · 20 Feb 2021 at 02:45

PiKe said:
Apparently VRR is never coming to the Sony models.

The X900H is getting VRR. Was the recent kaffaffle of course, but that was put to bed when Sony confirmed models like the X900H are getting the support. Caveat being there is no timeline.

PiKe · 20 Feb 2021 at 14:40

Radox-0 said:
The X900H is getting VRR. Was the recent kaffaffle of course, but that was put to bed when Sony confirmed models like the X900H are getting the support. Caveat being there is no timeline.

I wouldn't want to buy a TV on the promise of a feature arriving at some point really!

Martynt74 · 22 Feb 2021 at 11:55

PiKe said:
I wouldn't want to buy a TV on the promise of a feature arriving at some point really!

Wasn't this a big deal with the Samsung KS8000 a year or so ago? Lots of people managed to get refunds as a promised feature never materialised.

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/samsung-ks-owners-refund/

jpaul · 22 Feb 2021 at 15:43

Is 120hz for games so essential ?
I'm not into games, but 50hz interlaced or 24prog looks fine for films, indeed with tv's frame interpolation you can get a smoothed annoying soap opera effect at faster rates,
so. moreover, you need a black frame insertion to help the brain break up the succession of images, even with fast pixel response times.

Better games hardware should be improving the rendering/texturing quality at any frame rates too, do games already offer a trade off ie. do you want image quality OR frame rate

Movies, whch should be the pinnacle of rendering (better than games) often look poor even though they are 24fps, which suggests processing power there should be targetted at quality not frame rate.

PiKe · 24 Feb 2021 at 13:21

Think I'm going to stick with my Panasonic TX-50CS520B, the MVA panel has higher peak brightness than Oled, 5500:1 contrast and viewing angles are way better than VA screens.

jpaul · 25 Feb 2021 at 13:12

jpaul said:
Is 120hz for games so essential ?

so the 120hz is for specific multiplayer games, and people typically have to dial down graphic rendering quality to achieve that
https://thedroidguy.com/best-pc-settings-call-of-duty-warzone-for-fps-performance-1134680
- are motor racing games more immersive at 60hz with higher quality gfx

steve5424 · 22 Apr 2021 at 18:53

PiKe said:
If the q80 would go under 1k that would be ideal.

It certainly is now. I just ordered a 55" Q80T for £764.15 direct from Samsung. I got emailed a 15% off code as a birthday treat by Samsung.

peahead · 25 Apr 2021 at 14:24

PiKe said:
Think I'm going to stick with my Panasonic TX-50CS520B, the MVA panel has higher peak brightness than Oled, 5500:1 contrast and viewing angles are way better than VA screens.

I am sorry but a 55" OLED like the CX will blow your current tv away, get the CX while you can before stock runs out.

For just over £1000 currently it's a bargain.

MrRockliffe · 25 Apr 2021 at 14:35

I certainly wouldn’t consider an 80T if comparing to a CX.

However if burn in is a factor, I’d look at the 90T or 95.

The 80T is a much lower class TV, and in game mode you’re essentially looking at an edge lit TV with limited/no local dimming.

steve5424 · 25 Apr 2021 at 14:46

MrRockliffe said:
I certainly wouldn’t consider an 80T if comparing to a CX.

However if burn in is a factor, I’d look at the 90T or 95.

The 80T is a much lower class TV, and in game mode you’re essentially looking at an edge lit TV with limited/no local dimming.

I got a great discount off the 80T. I would have gone with the 90T but Samsung were out of stock.

From all reviews I've seen and read the 80T is still a fantastic set and it has FALD rather than edge.

MrRockliffe · 25 Apr 2021 at 15:43

steve5424 said:
From all reviews I've seen and read the 80T is still a fantastic set and it has FALD rather than edge.

It does have FALD but from what I understand, it isn’t active when game mode is enabled, since it would add to input latency

XeNoNF50 · 25 Apr 2021 at 18:27

MrRockliffe said:
I certainly wouldn’t consider an 80T if comparing to a CX.

However if burn in is a factor, I’d look at the 90T or 95.

The 80T is a much lower class TV, and in game mode you’re essentially looking at an edge lit TV with limited/no local dimming.

This tbh 80T seems a silly alternative

theone8181 · 25 Apr 2021 at 19:38

MrRockliffe said:
It does have FALD but from what I understand, it isn’t active when game mode is enabled, since it would add to input latency

That seems a bit daft, surely its not an issue on the 90/95 so you think the TV would work the same.

MrRockliffe · 25 Apr 2021 at 19:47

theone8181 said:
That seems a bit daft, surely its not an issue on the 90/95 so you think the TV would work the same.

I’m not sure to be honest - I only came across the info when researching TVs for a friend recently. He opted for the Q90T in the end and is very happy with it.

I think that, in reality, 99.9% of people would be really happy with a high end FALD or OLED - just need to pick whichever suits your needs/wants better.

For me, the risk of burn in is worth it, considering the super low pixel transition times and pixel level dimming control.

JohnG7 · 25 Apr 2021 at 19:52

jpaul said:
Is 120hz for games so essential ?
I'm not into games, but 50hz interlaced or 24prog looks fine for films, indeed with tv's frame interpolation you can get a smoothed annoying soap opera effect at faster rates,
so. moreover, you need a black frame insertion to help the brain break up the succession of images, even with fast pixel response times.

Better games hardware should be improving the rendering/texturing quality at any frame rates too, do games already offer a trade off ie. do you want image quality OR frame rate

Movies, whch should be the pinnacle of rendering (better than games) often look poor even though they are 24fps, which suggests processing power there should be targetted at quality not frame rate.

Go and read up on FPS for movie vs games, 25-30FPS would be low for games esp. on LCD (looks better on CRT due to more fluid motion and next to no lag) when movie have fast action scenes they cover this up via motion blur, so do some games but too much can make you feel dizzy.

theone8181 · 25 Apr 2021 at 19:56

MrRockliffe said:
I’m not sure to be honest - I only came across the info when researching TVs for a friend recently. He opted for the Q90T in the end and is very happy with it.

I think that, in reality, 99.9% of people would be really happy with a high end FALD or OLED - just need to pick whichever suits your needs/wants better.

For me, the risk of burn in is worth it, considering the super low pixel transition times and pixel level dimming control.

I am tempted by the 75 q90, however I believe it only has 1 hdmi 2.1 which in typical samsung fashion isn't the arc channel :rolleyes:

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