LG G5

Oh yay more brightness.

Have the fixed the panning judder yet?

they need to fix the colour volume, specially at higher brightness. The brighter a g4 gets the more washed out it looked. The QD OlED are just much better panels both for panel uniformity and colour volume and brightness also the LG's Oled are overpriced. Hisense UX116 with the new RGB LCD backlight looks like a technology that will make LCD much better intern of colour volume and colour output hence compete with OLED, as people are happy to pay much less but with similar picture quality. I don't see how LG will compete in the future without further dropping the price.
 
they need to fix the colour volume, specially at higher brightness. The brighter a g4 gets the more washed out it looked. The QD OlED are just much better panels both for panel uniformity and colour volume and brightness also the LG's Oled are overpriced. Hisense UX116 with the new RGB LCD backlight looks like a technology that will make LCD much better intern of colour volume and colour output hence compete with OLED, as people are happy to pay much less but with similar picture quality. I don't see how LG will compete in the future without further dropping the price.

The washed out color issue has existed since the G2 and it's one of the reasons I haven't bothered updating from my c9. I set my c9 to 750nits as that's the sweet spot, anything over 750 looks washed out I'm afraid. But this years G5 has an extra color layer in the panel which improves color volume so hopefully that fixes it
 
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Vincent has done a few tests on the G5

The brightness improvements are very significant; he measured a peak output of 4043 nits on a 2% window, that's 5 times brighter than a C9.

Even though last year's G4 is no slouch, put next to the G5, the G5 on the right makes the G4 on the left appear dim in comparison


 
The average consumer isn't buying £2500+ OLEDs, which is what the 55-inch G5 will cost on release. These are the people the C5/B5 is aimed at, although even those are likely to be priced above what the average consumer spends on a TV.

The higher peak brightness makes a noticeable difference in certain scenes. My C9, for example, looks much dimmer than my G4.
 
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Isn't OLED judder inherent to the fast response of the screens? I expect to see the usual de-judder settings in the menus again and nothing more.

Sony have been very good in this department. The Class leader and I don't belive it needs the end user to be adjusting depending on content.
 
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Oh yay more brightness.

Have the fixed the panning judder yet?
My biggest issue with OLED is the real risk of burn-in especially for a dual-use monitor.

And while I have zero interest in having my retina burned by 4000 NITS of brightness, any advance on max brightness should make burn-in at saner level brightness levels less likely. So let the panel makers compete for max brightness headlines!

I do not have the equipment to accurately measure NITS but my IPS LCDs are 250cd/m² monitors and are set to 40% brightness / 70% contrast and using an Android light meter I get 100-120 on white. So I suspect I'm happy with max 200 NITS - and therefore burn-in is probably a non-issue for me anyway even with the current gen of LG panels. The WOLED pixel layout for text might be an other issue though!
 
My biggest issue with OLED is the real risk of burn-in especially for a dual-use monitor.

And while I have zero interest in having my retina burned by 4000 NITS of brightness, any advance on max brightness should make burn-in at saner level brightness levels less likely. So let the panel makers compete for max brightness headlines!

I do not have the equipment to accurately measure NITS but my IPS LCDs are 250cd/m² monitors and are set to 40% brightness / 70% contrast and using an Android light meter I get 100-120 on white. So I suspect I'm happy with max 200 NITS - and therefore burn-in is probably a non-issue for me anyway even with the current gen of LG panels. The WOLED pixel layout for text might be an other issue though!
I agree.

And the headroom should hopefully help with the sustained brightness over a longer period. ABL is the term believe.
 
My biggest issue with OLED is the real risk of burn-in especially for a dual-use monitor.

And while I have zero interest in having my retina burned by 4000 NITS of brightness, any advance on max brightness should make burn-in at saner level brightness levels less likely. So let the panel makers compete for max brightness headlines!

I do not have the equipment to accurately measure NITS but my IPS LCDs are 250cd/m² monitors and are set to 40% brightness / 70% contrast and using an Android light meter I get 100-120 on white. So I suspect I'm happy with max 200 NITS - and therefore burn-in is probably a non-issue for me anyway even with the current gen of LG panels. The WOLED pixel layout for text might be an other issue though!
I've had an LG OLED for nearly 10 years, that my ex wife used to regularly leave on radio channels for hours on end, as well as static images. And I mean HOURS, no matter how many times I told her.

It is on most days for at least 6 hours and I have also used it for gaming, from emulation, to console, to PC gaming. I also had sky for a while. I even used it as a larger monitor during COVID so I didn't have to use my laptop when I was working on the sofa!!!

There is minimal burn in on it, and the only time I notice It, is on a dull black background, and unless you're looking for it, you'd never see it.

I'd say If this old TV has been through the abuse it has with such limited burn in, a newer one with much better protection protocols, you'd really have to try hard to get some burn in!
 
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