LG IPS226V

'Early Q1 2011' in the UK according to LG. Not very specific but shouldn't be long now! Really quite a positive review I'd say and it highlights a point I frequently make about not trusting manufacturer stated response times. I really can't wait to get my hands on these for review.
 
Using an nec 20wgx2 at the moment, tried a Samsung 22" 1080p TN panel but it did not get anywhere near the nec for picture clarity and the anti-glare coating was horrible as it completely destroyed the image clarity, so it's an ISP panel for me. Considering the Dell U2311H as well.
 
Hopefully theres 23" and 24" versions that arrive same time, been itching too jump on the ips bandwagon....

Reached a point where ive been looking at getting a Panasonic 32inch 1080p led ips TV just to really enjoy my 1080p tv/films :)
 
No and I don't know why! It has been available in Europe for quite some time and is avilable as a European import from some retailers at a premium. If you were intending to use it as a gaming monitor, however, I'd think twice as it leaves a bit to be desired in terms of pixel responsiveness. It is a shame as the input lag is virtually non-existant. Reports of the E2370V seem a bit more positive as far as responsiveness goes but if the IPS1 and IPS6 series aren't officially available over here yet then don't hold your breath on that one.
 
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No and I don't know why! It has been available in Europe for quite some time and is avilable as a European import from some retailers at a premium. If you were intending to use it as a gaming monitor, however, I'd think twice as it leaves a bit to be desired in terms of pixel responsiveness. It is a shame as the input lag is virtually non-existant. Reports of the E2370V seem a bit more positive as far as responsiveness goes but if the IPS1 and IPS6 series aren't officially available over here yet then don't hold your breath on that one.
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Thanks :). Sounds like a whole lot of motion blur. Going to cross this one off my list - just as well as it doesn't seem like it's coming over here any time soon.

The stated ISO response time of 8ms and grey to grey response time of 5ms (see the monitor technology article) were far from achievable using an accurate oscilloscope-based measurement. Prad.de recorded an average response time of 30.8 seconds
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30.8 seconds?
 
That's what they recorded (it's an average of the ISO and grey to grey measurements they got). The problem is the protocol hasn't been standardised and no doubt the manufacturers cherry pick in every case to give nice low-looking figures. The 'correct' protocol involves a measurement of a complete transition from one state to another and then back again but manufacturers have been known to only count the initial change. Even if you half the values in the review you get a number much higher than anything stated by LG. I know the value does seem outrageously high but the monitor lacks any sort of grey to grey acceleration and putting figures to one side produces apparently very noticeable trailing.
 
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i have the IPS236 version right next to my U2711 atm. Obivously its not as good as the Dell but its still better than over 50 LCD/LED screens that I compared with out the box.

Its been out a while now, wonder why its still not hit the UK market?

As for motion blur, not noticed it at all.
 
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As for motion blur, not noticed it at all.
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It's something a lot of users wouldn't really be bothered by, but everyone's susceptibility is different. As a keen-eyed reviewer I do notice even relatively minor hints of trailing but whether that would bother most people when they aren't specifically looking out for it is another matter. I always make this subjectivity clear in my reviews but I know there are some people who will read a negative review and take every word as gospel bold fact.

I have no idea why these haven't been released in the UK either. LG's PR department is in a bit of a mess at the moment too as they are closing down the company who originally handled the monitor side of things and are combining it with the larger LG One company. It's all a bit chaotic- but efficiency savings and all that.
 
Maybe revisions or manufacturing places will play a roll. I play games a lot and I use to play professionally. I'm not saying my eyes are the best but I will instantly know if there is motion blur on the monitor im using. No offence, I trust my eyes than any other reviewer. There shouldn't be any motion blur on any monitor these days, unless its on the cheap side. But hey, I've seen blur and ghosting on expensive monitors too.

Depending on the price, I'm sure a lot of people will be after this monitor. LED could be a + side too, it certainly looks more lively than my U2711 lol.

I noticed there is a 'v' on the end of the model number, the ones over here in Hong Kong doesn't have that. Maybe you know something about that?

Will have to wait for the masses and see another thread like the Hazro's ^ ^.
 
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I play games a lot and I use to play professionally. I'm not saying my eyes are the best but I will instantly know if there is motion blur on the monitor im using. No offence, I trust my eyes than any other reviewer.
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As I said, it's subjective. If you don't notice any trailing that is great but scientifically speaking there are several very good reasons why modern LCD monitors such as this one will exhibit some degree of trailing. These range from the pixel behaviour of the monitor itself to its refresh behaviour and even phsiological and psychological things to do with how humans perceive the motion (image persistance on retina etc.)

Now as I say I haven't tested the IPS226(V) myself (I don't know what the 'V' signifies but not all retailers seem to use it in Europe or America either). I do, however, have considerable experience with similar monitors and significantly more responsive monitors and am fairly convinved I would notice trailing on that model if I reviewed it. Whether or not I or other users would find it troublesome is another issue entirely and I am not going to single it out and point the finger of weakness at the IPS226V specifically. Prad.de did give their subjective opinion of the IPS236V, as noted, and didn't just throw out some figures and exclaim that they are disappointed - they too know how important subjective assessment is with monitors. Compared to the rather too simplistic but still present Digital Versus review of the IPS226V there is certainly a descenting opinion on this one. Interestingly Digital Versus were rather critical of the responsiveness of the Acer HN274H whereas the majority of user reports and some other more detailed reviews on this are very positive.

Regardless of this, if trailing on even the most responsive 60Hz monitors wasn't a particular problem for people more broadly then there wouldn't be so many people who swear by their humble CRT or 120Hz LCD monitors or are patiently awaiting OLED monitors for improvements in this area alone. Even with recent 120Hz LCD monitors you have to consider visual artifacts which may be visible if the response time compensation (RTC) algorithm is poorly implemented. There may be some PixPerAn test results somewhere that illustrate the extent of the visible trailing. This is certainly something I would use to aid the exploration of the responsiveness of the IPS226.
 
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