LG makes shift to Mini-LED TVs at CES 2021
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Mini LED isn’t better than OLED, it’s Micro LED that will replace OLED.
MiniLED isn't much different to the local dimming we already have in LCDs is it? It's just each MiniLED backlight will only be illuminating a few hundred pixels rather than maybe a few thousand, so the local dimming is more local than current LED TVs achieve.
The current Nanocell apparently has 32 local dimming zones (https://www.avforums.com/reviews/lg-nano90-lcd-tv-review.17845) whilst (and if I am getting my maths right) the QNED will have closer to 208 (2500/12). (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55474953).
Should still be a fairly significant step up, without going Microled and OLED
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It’s just more dimming zones, still won’t beat effectively 8 million dimming zones on an OLED.
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I was about to say maybe I'll switch back, but then I remembered how beautiful the super fast pixel response times are for gaming 
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True, but what you have to consider is that your eyes naturally introduce blooming that you see on LCD TVs, so while a camera can differentiate between OLED vs a high quality FALD LCD TV, your eyes can't so much - I think MiniLED will be an excellent compromise between the two technologies.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/why-does-my-lg-cx-bloom.2321853/
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LG are probably still using IPS panels which aren’t great for TV’s and we don’t know what their dimming algorithm is like, Sony sets do better than Samsung despite having less dimming zones due to their algorithm.
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I still believe OLED TVs will go the way of plasma, certainly when MicroLED comes in full force. Until then, traditional LCD and LED backlighting will just improve year on year and continue to be more reasonably priced and longer lasting.
move on? Hahaha try again mate, mini led is just qled with a different name, same ****. Considering that reviews of TCL mini led have shown worse performance than qled I wouldn't hold my breath
of course lg don't use VA. They use ips panels which looks really bad for color contrast next to Samsung's VA
Oled will remain king until affordable MicroLED. Microled will replace everything - it will be the only computer monitor and tv technology once it's available and affordable
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the photo - its only the LG that had poor oled picture processing ?
Big>77" oled's have low yield contributing to making them unaffordable, I don't see mini-led competition reducing their prices
can't refind earlier link where they provided scientific data on resolving power of the eye with high contrast items adjacent on a screen,
similar'ish debate to what viewing distance is a 4K tv's resolution discernible from 1080 in sdr
Big>77" oled's have low yield contributing to making them unaffordable, I don't see mini-led competition reducing their prices
so at 55" you throw 1 in 5 away , at 77" effectively 1 in 2 (maybe you salvage a 55)
yes,
can't refind earlier link where they provided scientific data on resolving power of the eye with high contrast items adjacent on a screen,
similar'ish debate to what viewing distance is a 4K tv's resolution discernible from 1080 in sdr
If you think that's bad, take a look at MicroLED yields. It's so bad that about 90% of panels come out of the production with a hundred(s) dead pixels
You can have as many dimming zones as you want; its how you control them that matters.
A Sony/Samsung equivalent model has been staying toe to toe re: performance with TCL Mini-LEDs this year; so a lot of is dependant on the algorithms and picture processing used.
I expect some fantastic results from Sony and to a lesser extent Samsung with these technologies. I think LG's LCD panels suck, period, so I don't hold much hope of the PQ being better than the other 2 big boys.
I'd be really excited if Panasonic enter the mini-LED market.
A Sony/Samsung equivalent model has been staying toe to toe re: performance with TCL Mini-LEDs this year; so a lot of is dependant on the algorithms and picture processing used.
I expect some fantastic results from Sony and to a lesser extent Samsung with these technologies. I think LG's LCD panels suck, period, so I don't hold much hope of the PQ being better than the other 2 big boys.
I'd be really excited if Panasonic enter the mini-LED market.
Yup. Micro isn't coming for 10 years IMO where it'd be affordable for a 77''+ panel.
£3.5k for a 77'' OLED. I don't think we'll reach £3.5k for a 77'' microLED for ages.
I'm not sure who makes the tcl mini led panels, and then why the likes of panasonic and sony are not using those(100hz versions), and adding their processing,
to recreate the glory days of the dx902 full array.
[? https://www.ft.com/content/945ee1ce-7031-4670-ad25-df6f04a30d23 not helping me]
I have a DX902B. I loved it but it had flaws I hope will be addressed this year.
Are Panasonic going mini-LED too?
I have a few personal issues with OLED (24p motion, banding, DSE/grain on whites, no HDR impact on full field bright scenes, no 85'' or 95'' screen sizes) so if we can get a mini-LED breakthrough, I'd love to give them a go TBH.
However I doubt they'll have sizes above 85'.