Life without mobiles

Yes, once again ttaskmaster. A lot of what you have said, to me, backs up the argument life is a lot easier with mobile phones.
However you want to see it then, mate... It's your life. Make up your own reality... or Google one up on your smartphone.

I'll just add you to my ignore list as I don't believe you will have anything I will ever want to read. (Easier done with tech than in real life. Great! :) )
Bye then... hope you find your sense of humour, one day.

You aren't doing that so you are wasting time on a phone, getting rid of phone would not suddenly make you more sociable or change your life. you would just replace one time waster with another.
I find people who don't have Facebooks and Twitters and Instagrams tend not to be late as often as those who do, because they're not wasting time faffing about with updates and notifications and things, as one example.
And no, it would not suddenly change any more than quitting smoking suddenly makes you Mr Universe... or even Mr Scotland... but it would change. Without that time-wasting distraction, you'd have the opportunity to get on with something more constructive, even if it's just the little things you ignore because you're busy Facebooking.
It might only be wasting time hanging out with friends, but it's far more sociable and conducive to human relationship than Tindering or Grinding and looking through pictures of people you won't get to date...

People managed fine before phones.
 
I find people who don't have Facebooks and Twitters and Instagrams tend not to be late as often as those who do, because they're not wasting time faffing about with updates and notifications and things, as one example.
And no, it would not suddenly change any more than quitting smoking suddenly makes you Mr Universe... or even Mr Scotland... but it would change. Without that time-wasting distraction, you'd have the opportunity to get on with something more constructive, even if it's just the little things you ignore because you're busy Facebooking.
It might only be wasting time hanging out with friends, but it's far more sociable and conducive to human relationship than Tindering or Grinding and looking through pictures of people you won't get to date...

People managed fine before phones.
or rather than changing you would find other ways to waste time, like most smokers, tea drinkers and general chatters who are late for everything at work

correlation does not equal causation and this is where your thinking is wrong.

you think one change would solve an issue, it isn't because you haven't done anything to solve the underlying issue. you have just removed one of many possible distractions.

and people used to manage fine with out money, times change, technology moves on and it is extremely handwork to shun modern technology, as you find it is required for so much of life.
 
I agree with the OP that I think there is more depression and unhappiness in life these days with the more modern technology. I remember the days before mobiles yes. Actually leaving the house to go and "call" for your mates, which involved literally knocking for them to see if they wanted to do something, usually outdoors. A healthier life. A happier life at times yes. It's not to say that gaming and electronics don't make us happy and sociable, but I think because they are constantly there and easily accessible, it makes us less motivated to achieve or learn new things, and interact with humans physically.

Before mobiles, things felt more exciting when you were out with mates in a way, because there was more planning and I guess you felt further from the safety net of "home". I don't think things were "easier". In fact, sometimes the opposite. I think OP means life was more simple in terms of less complications. Don't know. Difficult to describe. It felt more...pure. Now if you get stranded trying to find a rave in the sticks, you turn your phone on and GPS escorts you to wherever. Not saying this is not good...just...different.

The social media aspect that kids grow up with now is quite worrying and damaging I think at times. Mobiles were great for calls and texts and opened up a new world. But with smart phones enabling mobile social media, it's become a world where we are addicted to it often unknowingly. People feel the need to check their phones constantly, often out of nervousness in place of where they would socially interact with another person. People are coming into offices for work less, and want to do everything remotely avoiding physical interaction. The mobile phone has become a central hub to our electronic lives, which was inevitable, but I dislike how people feel they must contribute to social media the most pointless things so as to "be involved". A lot of it I think is jealousy over other people's intersting and more vibrant/rich lives. We aim to "justify" that we are indeed having fun and doing cool, luxurious things, like taking a picture of our cat and nandos chicken wings. Take me back to the early 90s and yes...life was "easier" in a way.
 
Was watching doc of guy that got out of prison after spending something like 50 years in prison. He lived in NY(I think or some big US city) and he thought most people on the street looked like agents and they walked around looking at their phones, he couldn't understand how they managed to walk, look at their phones and not bump into each other. Found it.
 
Blocking people who dont agree with you is not the answer to any problem.
Yes it is, dammit. This is the modern world. You have to move with the times and embrace the social withdrawal brought to you by crappy overpriced technology! :D

But an awful lot of things are. You know this of course.
A lot of the basic stuff is, yeah indeed. Half the time I can still find what I'm looking for quicker than Google can, though... and people far more tech-savvy than me seem utterly incapable of locating the obvious.

or rather than changing you would find other ways to waste time, like most smokers, tea drinkers and general chatters who are late for everything at work
correlation does not equal causation and this is where your thinking is wrong.
They do this already, though and half the time it is work related, or at least along those semi-productive lines. I've been known to hang out chatting in the work kitchen for over an hour, but it's still work chat, networking, sorting out plans and schedules, finding solutions with people who can deliver them... A couple of times I've even landed new jobs as a result.
Can't say the same about posting pics of my dinner or the contents of my toilet on Farcebook...

you think one change would solve an issue, it isn't because you haven't done anything to solve the underlying issue. you have just removed one of many possible distractions.
I'll have removed the one source that facilitates numerous different distractions. It's a gateway distraction, If you like - One device, so many apps, each a distraction - "Whatever you want to do, there's an app for that"... yet none of them help you check for traffic before stepping out into the road!!

and people used to manage fine with out money,
Because they weren't being flogged the latest overpriced Apple guff...

times change, technology moves on and it is extremely handwork to shun modern technology, as you find it is required for so much of life.
I don't shun technology just because it's modern. I shun it because it's not always better.
I adored my Psion Revo, for example and while I find modern technology far more capable specs-wise, it's often an absolute pain in the bum to actually *use*. Kinda like giving me an 8-Pack custom top end PC, but telling me I have to use my tongue to type on it!!

The number of people I know whose smartphones and tablets have cracked glass, for example, never mind that we have entire websites dedicated to embarrassing touchscreen typos and autocorrect screw ups. How is this better?
Heck, they're even bringing *back* clamshell keyboarded devices, now!

Smartphones look so boring, as well. People are doing flips over leaked photos of the latest iPhone and Samsung... which look exactly the same as ALL their previous junk. OK, the headphone socket (if it even has one, now) might be 3mm higher up the side of the case or something, but that's it. Not exactly the groundbreaking revolution everyone's making it out to be...

I agree with the OP that I think there is more depression and unhappiness in life these days with the more modern technology.
Seems to be a lot more of this social anxiety stuff these days, as well... probably from spending all your time interacting online instead of with real people!

Before mobiles, things felt more exciting when you were out with mates in a way, because there was more planning and I guess you felt further from the safety net of "home".
I'd say less planning, more adventure.
These days every bit of information around the schedule is downloaded and beamed to your synced calendar, so woe betide anyone who deviates from The Plan.... Never used to be like that. We'd just rock up whenever, do it live, play it by ear and have a whale of a time. Adventure, I think it was called... Probably why all those I choose as friends are older than me.

Now if you get stranded trying to find a rave in the sticks, you turn your phone on and GPS escorts you to wherever.
I do have a SatNav for on the bike, but there have been numerous places I'd never have found if I wasn't lost. Now you only find out about somewhere new if there are more than 200 good reviews on Trip Advisor...

The social media aspect that kids grow up with now is quite worrying and damaging I think at times.
Yeah, I agree with this part.
I think it cheapens the whole experience of life. Nothing is fun any more, as there's always some ****** there to tell you how much of a stupid **** you are and how your life is so worthless you ought to kill yourself... for no reason than they find it funny, probably because their own lives revolve around the internet and nothing more... and pre-teen kids are exposed to this!!

Never used to get that before the anonymity of the internet and never had to "grow a thicker skin", probably because anyone wanting to say that had to do it to my face and risk getting theirs kicked in.

People feel the need to check their phones constantly, often out of nervousness in place of where they would socially interact with another person. People are coming into offices for work less, and want to do everything remotely avoiding physical interaction.
Yup.

A lot of it I think is jealousy over other people's intersting and more vibrant/rich lives. We aim to "justify" that we are indeed having fun and doing cool, luxurious things, like taking a picture of our cat and nandos chicken wings. Take me back to the early 90s and yes...life was "easier" in a way.
This sounds pretty accurate, actually.
I grew up without TV, for the most part. When, at 13 years old, I told people about this they often asked, "OMG, what do you DO with your free time??!!"... There then usually followed a long list of all the things I did, mainly outdoor things like camping, hunting, but also reading, flying, drawing, modelling... there seemed so much to do in life.
 
Sure, I'd love to go back to a time when I could afford a house and the government paid for my degree, I'm willing to bet I would be a lot happier too.

The world is a lot different than it used to be, removing my phone and everyone else's isn't going to magically make life better.
 
well you carry on living in denial and not sort out your actual issues.
My issues are that great technology is being replaced by crap, mindlessly endorsed by apathetic masses who fear social interaction and think new = better just because the companies flogging it say it is, and is driven by companies who care more about taking my money than delivering the service it pays for. Tell me how I sort that out, then? :D
 
i your head as that's on a sub section of society, you know what ive been saying all along, its a problem with you. not society as a whole.
are group do not burry are face in our phones t the pub, most of us dont post on facebook often etc and 90% dont have anywhere near the latest phones, and this is not abnormal.
 
are group do not burry are face in our phones t the pub, most of us dont post on facebook often etc and 90% dont have anywhere near the latest phones, and this is not abnormal.
Neither do my groups... but they're not the ones stepping out in front of my car because they're on their phone, they're not the ones crashing their cars while on their phones so often that we need new laws specifically against it, they're not the ones queueing up for days outside the Apple shop to drop insane amounts of money on something slightly better and far more expensive than the last something, they're not the ones who can't cope with having to look me in the eye and answer a simple question, they're not the ones who order out with an app because they can't manage to walk 400yds to the pizza shop for their super 17" with wings, wedges and diet (because they're watching their waistline) cola ... Yeah, society is "fine", it's ME that's the problem....
 
Without a smartphone I couldn't:

1) Walk into Tesco, grab what I need, head to the self service checkout, scan my clubcard using Beep&Go, then scan the back of my phone to pay via NFC.
2) Rock up at the petrol station, load up the Shell app and input the pump number. Fill up then drive away.
3) Send Clown and NickX a BEEP BEEP on Waze.
4) Take a great quality photo of a chance moment.
5) Slide into yo momma's DMs :p
6) Carry my entire music library around with me in glorious lossless clarity.
7) Do banking on the go without having to step a foot into a branch.
8) Check up on smart connected home security, turn on and off smart lights/switches around the house.

I must be missing out, I don't do any of that, which is probably why a smartphone is a nonessential part of my life. I'm technically minded and keep up to date with most things, but phones are just one area where I couldn't give a stuff.
 
No mobiles? For that reason, i'm out.

I don't think i would cope without things like location based reminders, I'm getting a bit forgetful!
 
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Would you like to go back to life without mobiles?
Being an child of 70,s i can remember before mobiles and i honestly think life was easier then, people were happier. Could you go back, or imagine life without? (For all you whippersnappers)

People were not happier. There was a lot more poverty, strikes and terrible music. We all had a lot less disposable income. The 70's were a very depressing time.
 
There was a lot more poverty, strikes and terrible music. We all had a lot less disposable income. The 70's were a very depressing time.
Poverty... People eating £1 burgers at McDonalds and shopping in the Value section of Tesco.
Strikes... Yeah, OK I'll give you that, but only because the unions are mostly dead and useless if you're not a train driver, nowadays.
Terrible Music... Justin Bieber. Kayne West. Anything touched by Simon Cowell. Need I go on?
Disposable Income... We also had a lot less junk through which to dispose of our income.
Depression... We're leaving Europe and all it offered, Trump is in power and ISIS are knocking on our doors.

:D
 
It did, but I suspect the majority of people would agree that it started to become more widely accessible to people around the mid to late 90s, when desktop PC ownership was booming.

What your referring to is the 'World Wide Web' which isn't what I was referring to. :)
 
I'd love to get rid of my phone. I don't think they make people happier. But existing in the world we have today, it would be difficult without one.
 
The mobiles from the late 90s were the best, just enough to phone and text and indestructible but with out the constant nagging of social media.
 
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