Llano

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 18:43

Llano A8-3850 APU, I am very impressed with this CPU and it has suprised me with what it will clock to. Any one intrested in what it is capable of ?
I will post the pics of the overclock next

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 18:50

It has been running prime now for a couple of hours and still seem to be very stable with temps not over 50c and core voltage 1.45v

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Oct 2011 at 18:55

If you keep the CPU at stock clockspeeds how far can you overclock the GPU??

Can you run 3DMark2011 and the Heaven Benchmark to see what type of scores you get at stock clockspeeds and with an overclocked GPU??

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:15

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If you keep the CPU at stock clockspeeds how far can you overclock the GPU??

Can you run 3DMark2011 and the Heaven Benchmark to see what type of scores you get at stock clockspeeds and with an overclocked GPU??

I will give it a go and see if the GPU can be clocked as there is no graphics overdrive in the CC. I will check the bios out to see if it can be tweeked there.
Also i will do a 3D Mark bench as well, stock and clocked.

Doomedspeed · 30 Oct 2011 at 19:41

max51 said:
I will give it a go and see if the GPU can be clocked as there is no graphics overdrive in the CC. I will check the bios out to see if it can be tweeked there.
Also i will do a 3D Mark bench as well, stock and clocked.

That'd be nice to see.
I am interested in the performance of these. How is the GPU on this chip? I guess its not capable of Games i things? I like looking for idea's of ITX systems.

Marine-RX179 · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:24

Doomedspeed said:
That'd be nice to see.
I am interested in the performance of these. How is the GPU on this chip? I guess its not capable of Games i things? I like looking for idea's of ITX systems.

The GPU is roughly on par with the 5570, so it's probably good enough for light/casual gamers that either game only on 1280 res monitor or TV, or source games.

d_brennen · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:28

Gives impressive performance for an integrated part, it is the future like it or not

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:32

Just downloading 3D Mark, will post again when i have all the results.

jennidc · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:50

Could you post your full setup - mobi/ram/cooler/etc

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:08

Setup
CPU Llano A8-3850
Motherboard, Gigabyte A75M-D2H
Memory 8GB Crucial 2-4GB DDR3 Ballistix PC3-12800 CL9, 1.5V Sport
Cooler, Artic Cooler 64 freezer pro
PSU, Thermaltake TR2 450w
HDD, 1TB Seagate barracuda.
Lite On Blu Ray drive
All tucked neatly into a Fractal Design Core 1000 Micro ATX case

Running Win7 Home Premium

stoke1863 · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:11

these look quite interresting for HTPC. I take it would play 1080 MKVS not problem at all?

jennidc · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:16

I'm watching this thread it looks a good chip - nice case BTW
I really like the minimalist design just simple but looks well made.

Gashman · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:17

at 4.7GHZ imagine that quad-core would be more than a match for most of the Bulldozer processors in their current iteration. that is a damned good clock for a Llano mind, don't think I have ever seen on that high, how is the multiplier set so high though, didn't think they were multiplier unlocked? :confused:

Emlyn_Dewar · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:35

Heaven benchmark reporting wrong clockspeed?

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:48

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Heaven benchmark reporting wrong clockspeed?

The Heaven bench i did before i hit the 4.7. That i put there just to show that it will run that bench mark.
All the new Heaven and 3D Mark benchies that i am doing now will show clocks at what i am benching.

max51 · 30 Oct 2011 at 21:57

jennidc said:
I'm watching this thread it looks a good chip - nice case BTW
I really like the minimalist design just simple but looks well made.

Thanks, Yes it is a good case. The only gripe i had with it is the cable managment was a bit of a pain. I will post some pics of it when done with the benchmarking.

Gashman said:
at 4.7GHZ imagine that quad-core would be more than a match for most of the Bulldozer processors in their current iteration. that is a damned good clock for a Llano mind, don't think I have ever seen on that high, how is the multiplier set so high though, didn't think they were multiplier unlocked?

Those multipliers where unlocked in the Bios on the Mobo. But they will only go up to 4.7 and then drops back to Auto

max51 · 31 Oct 2011 at 15:25

I have been working for hours on this CPU and have come up with a conflict of what the Bios and CPUz is telling me about these and other overclocks that have been recorded. One overclock has sat stable on air at 4.9 GHz on a MSI Mobo. I have run Heaven bench and 3d mark, even Heaven states un overclock of 4.7

So that is the Bios AMD sys monitor and CPUz all telling me the core clock is 4.7GHz.
Now brain has started working overtime as whatever i try with 3DMark performance does not increase on the CPU side and i have only a slight increase of performance from the GPU side.
What started me Thinking was the Max TDP and the temps, which where only increasing by small amounts with each change of the multiplier and each upage of the core clock, so i have been doing some reaserch and have found this.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-A8-3850-APU-Falsely-Supports-Multipliers-Over-29x-210242.shtml
I have also come to the same conclusion with loads of testing.
Do not get me wrong the Llano A8-3850 is a very good proccessor even in standard form and also makes a very good media centre or Home Theatre and is still very good at what it does. as for gaming, it will play but would recomend a discrete GPU to go with it if playing Heavy weight games.
The 3DMark score is 1100
The 3DMark vantage score over 4000
Unigine Heaven score i got to 502 at a res of 1280x720. min frames 12, Max frames 40
This has left me with some very intresting findings.

Emlyn_Dewar · 31 Oct 2011 at 15:55

Edit: never mind, see your link has the same story I was thinking of.

sarge78 · 31 Oct 2011 at 16:19

^ Yep, the CPU multiplier is locked even though some mobos report otherwise, overclocking is done with the bus speed.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If you keep the CPU at stock clockspeeds how far can you overclock the GPU??

Can you run 3DMark2011 and the Heaven Benchmark to see what type of scores you get at stock clockspeeds and with an overclocked GPU??

CPU and GPU clock are all based on the PCI-Express frequency, faster memory plays a bigger role.

stoke1863 said:
these look quite interresting for HTPC. I take it would play 1080 MKVS not problem at all?

Yep with ease, Llano is overkill for a basic HTPC tbh. Unless you want a HTPC + XBOX 360...

max51 · 31 Oct 2011 at 17:23

Just downloaded Crysis 2 and Tom Clancy's hawk on to it and tried with Xbox controller. Very impressed for onboard GPU, plays both smoothly. Not at max settings, but for the casual gamer who does not require high end or cannot afford high end then this is a ok APU.
Ok apart from the OC shinanigans with the Bios, a real world review i would recomend this CPU.