LOD Bias tweaking on Radeon.

[Insolent mint]

The same happened in Quake Champions. The developers told anyone including streamers if you were caught using Nvidia Inspector to modify the game your account will be banned and it's forbidden in tournaments.

It strips the textures out or extremely blurs it but there is no performance gains.

While it was fine for the past, I can understand but the rules didn't apply back then nor did esports exist.

And look at the top comment on Youtube.

"garra17662 years ago
Thank god! The game looks playable now"

 

[V F]

LAN tournament games are all tailored to the esport scene. E.g greatly optimised, good visibility, low to non-existing clutter. Hence there is no need to apply such tweaks for esport games. BFV is the complete opposite.

It's not just LAN tournaments, there are Internet tournaments as well, before and if you make it to the LAN.

And look at the top comment on Youtube.

"garra17662 years ago
Thank god! The game looks playable now"

I know, as I said the developers will ban your account if caught.

 

[melmac]

I have and so has many others in Quake 2 / Quake 3. Did you get upset when people used r_picmip 5 (or greater) in Quake 3?

It was different times back then. But, Why would I get upset with r_Picmip 5? It was allowed even when the ESR leagues started. The higher values weren't because they distorted things and sometimes made floors transparent etc.

 

[Disco_P]

Imo if you are using a 3rd party tool to change what the game is rendering thus gaining an advantage then that is cheating.

 

[Insolent mint]

Imo if you are using a 3rd party tool to change what the game is rendering thus gaining an advantage then that is cheating.

That same logic could be extrapolated to people acquiring high-end hardware to render the frames at 144hz and beyond--incurring a vast disadvantage for the casual 60hz competitor who is playing in a slow motion lagfest. And yet, the industry has no qualms with that. I wonder why? Ah yes, could it be so simple that the inflated (and in many cases pricefixed) "gaming"-bumper sticker is a goldmine for them? While making two edits in a legitimate tweaking application--to somewhat equalize the playing field-- doesn't make them money. As an independent consumer, what you're doing here is that you're ******** on your doorstep by comforming to a set of rules beneficial only to giant conglomerates and people with more money than common sense.

 

[subbytna]

...weather isn't too good today is it? A bit of rain forecast

 

[Panos]

That same logic could be extrapolated to people acquiring high-end hardware to render the frames at 144hz and beyond--incurring a vast disadvantage for the casual 60hz competitor who is playing in a slow motion lagfest. And yet, the industry has no qualms with that. I wonder why? Ah yes, could it be so simple that the inflated (and in many cases pricefixed) "gaming"-bumper sticker is a goldmine for them? While making two edits in a legitimate tweaking application--to somewhat equalize the playing field-- doesn't make them money. As an independent consumer, what you're doing here is that you're ******** on your doorstep by comforming to a set of rules beneficial only to giant conglomerates and people with more money than common sense.

Ahh you continue the usual defense all cheaters are using the last 25 years I play online competitive games.
The same **** argument, quarter of the century later.

 

[melmac]

That same logic could be extrapolated to people acquiring high-end hardware to render the frames at 144hz and beyond--incurring a vast disadvantage for the casual 60hz competitor who is playing in a slow motion lagfest. And yet, the industry has no qualms with that. I wonder why? Ah yes, could it be so simple that the inflated (and in many cases pricefixed) "gaming"-bumper sticker is a goldmine for them? While making two edits in a legitimate tweaking application--to somewhat equalize the playing field-- doesn't make them money. As an independent consumer, what you're doing here is that you're ******** on your doorstep by comforming to a set of rules beneficial only to giant conglomerates and people with more money than common sense.

LOL Now that's a laughable post. From a guy with Haswell CPU, a 1060 and a 240Hz monitor. Stop with the pretense. LOD Bias doesn't give any extra FPS worth a damn on modern cards. In the likes of BF1 and BF V it's used for one thing and one thing only and that's as an exploit.

To follow your ridiculous argument to it's logic conclusion, then I guess you have no problem with people using wall hacks, aimbots and whatever else. Conforming to rules is only good for conglomerates, right?

 

[Insolent mint]

LOL Now that's a laughable post. From a guy with Haswell CPU, a 1060 and a 240Hz monitor. Stop with the pretense. LOD Bias doesn't give any extra FPS worth a damn on modern cards. In the likes of BF1 and BF V it's used for one thing and one thing only and that's as an exploit.

To follow your ridiculous argument to it's logic conclusion, then I guess you have no problem with people using wall hacks, aimbots and whatever else. Conforming to rules is only good for conglomerates, right?

What an asinine post. You do realize that at 720p with the lowest settings possible, the GPU constraint is eliminated from the equation, right? The workload is shifted almost entirely onto CPU+RAM-- meaning alleviating already existing bottlenecks (4c/4t, DDR3 ram) is crucial. LOD tweaks facilitate that. The increased visibility is equally important. I play the game how I damn well please; if that excess clutter (designed for the sole reason to sell more contemporary hardware) ruins the experience--i'll expunge it. And I certainly needn't justify my choices to random people on the internet who disagree. All I know is whatever advantage LOD tweaks provide for low-end systems, it pales in comparison to 240hz gaming. And I know that from experience--unlike yourself--spouting nonsense from your rear.

 

[HRL]

What an asinine post. You do realize that at 720p with the lowest settings possible, the GPU constraint is eliminated from the equation, right? The workload is shifted almost entirely onto CPU+RAM-- meaning alleviating already existing bottlenecks (4c/4t, DDR3 ram) is crucial. LOD tweaks facilitate that. The increased visibility is equally important. I play the game how I damn well please; if that excess clutter (designed for the sole reason to sell more contemporary hardware) ruins the experience--i'll expunge it. And I certainly needn't justify my choices to random people on the internet who disagree. All I know is whatever advantage LOD tweaks provide for low-end systems, it pales in comparison to 240hz gaming. And I know that from experience--unlike yourself--spouting nonsense from your rear.

I didn’t even realise this was a thing until recently. Being sniped in BFV by someone that I know where they are because I’m familiar with the map but I can’t see them at all, yet they can snipe me over and over again because due to LOD tweaks there’s nothing obscuring their view.

That must be cheating, right? Or do they do it to just increase their frame rates? The fact they can see people way before they can be spotted themselves is just a beneficial side effect?

 

[Deleted member 651465]

It’s unsporting, makes your game look like ass and gives you an unfair advantage. NEXT.