Logburner lining of fireplace with board & paint advice

SkodaMart said:
Stoves too big for the hole, I agree.
9KW is just crazy!
My little Stockton is only 3.75KW and really kicks out the heat.

How big is your lounge?
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3.75kw wouldn't do it for us mate, we like to leave the doors open and have this take almost all of the strain off of the oil burner heating system. Later this will actually be connected to that and will heat that loop too.

Lounge is currently (I say currently as we are going through some building plans currently) roughly 36*16, while not huge it's probably a bigger area than most but more importantly it has no insulation really and the heat wafts all over the house :)
 
Jez said:
3.75kw wouldn't do it for us mate, we like to leave the doors open and have this take almost all of the strain off of the oil burner heating system. Later this will actually be connected to that and will heat that loop too.

Lounge is currently (I say currently as we are going through some building plans currently) roughly 36*16, while not huge it's probably a bigger area than most but more importantly it has no insulation really and the heat wafts all over the house :)
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No worries, my lounge is about 13ft x 13ft
(Sat here with the door open though)
Ceilings are high, but little Stockton is really good.
Frugal too.
A house is not a home without a real fire. (IMO)
Even if I lived in a modern house I would have a contemporary stove.
 
I do like your fireplace very much, looks great :) yeah I'd always have a burner, we had an open fire there before and by comparison it might as well have not even been there, totally useless heat wise. Luckily we have unlimited free wood out here in West oxon so although this burner eats it, all that means is more exercise for me prepping it! By comparison firing our oil burner was chewing upwards of £200pcm which I deemed unacceptable really when there is this alternative.

You understand though I am hardly going to rip out a near new very powerful burner or modify the structure of the house simply to create more clearance though. That's madness and is why those replies are not helpful at all. Thanks again for (most!) of the replies guys.
 
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@Jez
Obviously I have a lot more airspace around mine.
I used modern insulating board for the sides and back.
I was told that this was suitable from my local fire shop.
It cracked however after a short while.
The shop kindly gave me heat proof plaster to plaster the cracked boards.
This seems to have done the trick.
The closure plate is rock board, it's cracked a bit but is holding up well enough to allow me to remove it to have the chimberly swept.
If I had yours, I would skim the brickwork with a heat proof plaster, and leave natural grey.
Hope this helps.
 
That sounds like a perfect solution, thanks for the link. My issue is that I don't think I can see a way to apply it with the lack of space to get round the unit. The flue is sealed to the plate which seals the chimney so I can't pull the stove out either :(

I guess what I could do which perhaps might be best is get the hetas guy back round to pull it out, apply the plaster and then slot it back in and seal it all back up.

Decisions!
 
No problem at all.
It's great stuff, mines been going about 3+ years now without problems.
(Not cheap stuff though)
Dries a nice natural stone grey, so doesn't really need any type of paint.
Bit harder than standard plaster to apply - as you rightly say no chance with the stove in place.

It is without a doubt the best job I have done to my house.
I don't get much free fuel, a combination of smokeless coal and any type of wood gives a long burn, ferocious heat and a nice flame.

Good luck with yours.
 
Jez said:
The flue is lined with steel mate :) The install is not something i am going to change, it is signed off with a certificate and all plate etc and i do not plan to pay for a re-inspection etc.

I think i may simply paint the brick with a thin roller and see how it goes. The clearance is not massive as it is and the fact that the brick is painted shouldn't show with only the thin visible void. I also risk voiding the install in theory if i reduce clearance as the installer will have gone with the manufacturer guidelines which i am imagine are on their limit as it is.

It does perform wonderfully as it is, so i also dont wish to impact this really, its a 9KW burner so puts out a decent amount of heat even for our large lounge.
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Sorry Jez I never realised it was finished and signed of

At my other house I had a Clearview 750 14kw to which I added a boiler and six rads - separate from oil heating - The fire coped remarkably well and all rads got too hot to touch but remember it will half the radiated heat output of fire - Before rads it was up to 700 deg but after rads 400 was highest I could get it. As you get free wood you will be ok because it will eat a lot more with rads.

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Edited as Clearview was 750 not 700
 
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I am with you on the best job thing for sure, this burner saved me a fortune last winter (easily paid for itself) and will hopefully save another couple of thousand litres of oil this winter too so it's a no brainer to have one. The fuel I tend to get does tend to be soft wood so it absolutely chews it and needs a lot of feeding, but I quite like doing all of that :) I have a mountain of wood in one of our garages around 10ft square ready for winter already.
 
DXP55 said:
Sorry Jez I never realised it was finished and signed of

At my other house I had a Clearview 700 14kw to which I added a boiler and six rads - separate from oil heating - The fire coped remarkably well and all rads got too hot to touch but remember it will half the radiated heat output of fire - Before rads it was up to 700 deg but after rads 400 was highest I could get it. As you get free wood you will be ok because it will eat a lot more with rads.

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Wow 14kw, nice. Love look of that newer contemporary one too. :) Now you say 14kw, it sounds as though my 9kw might struggle if connected to the rads..
 
hells teeth £200 a month in oil - are rads fitted to outside of house -

I am on oil and at last place and only used 1000ltrs year - Although other house was big I did have three log burners -Little Wenlock - a Homemade one which was excellent and Clearview - Logs were £5 ton but over the years have crept up to £35. - These are also soft wood.

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SkodaMart said:
@DXP55
Really like your new fire.

What is the fire surround made of?
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It is a metal box I had made - If you have the hole - measure it up and get a 3/4mm three sided box with top on made up - get hole cut for flue - also the surround edge is angle iron - if you look at it from front the angle iron is welded on going out to either side then back in - so pushed box in hole till angle iron hit bricks then plastered all round - needed careful measurement to get the flue in right place - As I said in post earlier I also had bricks out above fire so it was easier to fit and line up the flue. - When that was done I used a vermiculite and cement mix to fill the void before bricking up again - Wish I had taken a picture of box now.

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@DXP55.
Really nice job.
I would certainly give that serious consideration if I was to do another.
What did you paint the steel with or is it powder coat?
 
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DXP55 said:
hells teeth £200 a month in oil - are rads fitted to outside of house
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Tell me about it, I burnt around 2500L over the winter the first winter we were here. Bosch Worcester serviced burner, 18 radiators of varying sizes plus hot water. Not acceptable, hence the burner. House construction is cotswold stone (unfortunately no cavity for the majority) and unfortunately not much insulation in the roof because the attic is converted.

The log burner is hard work but paid for itself in one winter alone with free fuel, I'd happily install a 2nd which I may well do at some point with an external flue.
 
Yeah the connected ones you have to specifically hunt out, the common type are the regular standalone ones :) For us its free heat though in place of burning hundreds in oil, it has to be worth connecting to the rads surely.
 
Jez said:
Yeah the connected ones you have to specifically hunt out, the common type are the regular standalone ones :) For us its free heat though in place of burning hundreds in oil, it has to be worth connecting to the rads surely.
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Sorry Jez, I was at cross purposes with you at first.
My goal was to heat the lounge, which I have achieved (a little too well tbh). With my Stockton 3 (3.75KW).

9 + KW is ideal for running radiators as that is the rating of my gas boiler.

The 'best' solution for a multifuel stove is an open plan cottage, and heat the full place from the living room, inc upstairs via convection. (IMO)
 
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