Soldato
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Do most people go to university? I thought it was about 40%?
Longer hours, shorter life
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I fully agree, it's disgraceful how many have been 'sold' an inappropriate degree. I too didn't go to university and it enabled me to save for my home at least 3 years earlier and build up 3 years more work experience.
I didn't go to university I don't regret it at all.
I think, if you know what you want to do, and that requires a university degree, than perfect. 100% university is right.
But otherwise it's just debts and probably won't get you anywhere.
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Believe me , as a worker for the council, well contractor , former binman , they have stopped doing "job and knock" as it was when I joined. There used to be an incentive to get done early but now they have put tablets with list of streets to be done and as they are completed they must be submitted to the office so that they can see how much you have left. If you have less to do than some of the other rounds , they'll stick more on you and you'll have to work the full hours anyway so it's now a case of working slower pace so you don't have to do as much.Tbh that would have been more fulfilling. Get to be outdoors too
I found a much better job with a decent work life balance. The problem with easy jobs is that you stagnate.
I take your point about stagnation, I moved on to street cleaning for the same company , it's easy enough but the same thing every day so you never feel like you're learning anything .
I've got a qualification for a different industry and trying to make a transition to working in it.
That's the problem with all this tracking nonsense, unless you give workers an incentive to put more effort in it doesn't do anything for increasing performance. All you end up doing is annoying workers and making people resentful of the privacy intrusion.
I wasn't making a dig about bin men btw, at least that job has a benefit to society. My old job and many office jobs are utterly utterly pointless.
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That's fair enough, I wonder how many people are sitting at work posting on here now?
I watched a clip of Joe Rogan when he interviewed someone about the book ******** Jobs, and he asked that same question.
I do sometimes wonder if we're all just going through the motions for the sake of filling our day.
You think it's possible to average 10% return over a period of 37 years? Seems a tad optimistic to me!
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Aye, they have the same thing at my place, you have to get a certain amount of "points" on average over a month. But the system they use is crap and easily manipulated, people are doing less work now than ever, and to a certain degree management are less focused because they rely on this system.
Also what happens, is people stop giving a **** about doing their job properly and just about getting points, people cherry pick, fob things off that are not their problem, just all about getting those quick points. That doesn't encourage teamwork either, quite the opposite and just adversely affects morale.
It's ingenuity over wisdom.
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It’s called Bulls£/& Jobs, sorry it would probably have blocked me posting swear words, by David Graeber , who examined whether most jobs are worth doing or not based on whether they are necessary, or superfluous , useful to a degree like new technologies, beneficial for society or not, even whether harmful.
There were 5 categories overall, some slip into more than one, it basically says that many people are in jobs they know are unnecessary, even more harmful than good, but can’t bring themselves to admit it to themselves or others.
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One of my friends worked in a warehouse for a large supermarket chain , order picking various foodstuffs with a scanner and had to get to a certain pick rate or risk losing his job. They incentivised the workers by paying varying amounts per item but this meant people would clamber over one another to get the higher value items to earn more.
Another ruse was holding back 50p per hour to give back as a lump sum after 6 months without a sick day . So your 6 month wait would start again if you did. Usually these were caused by emergencies that couldn’t be planned.Not many people stayed a year.
When I was a student did warehouse work like that where people with almost come to blows to nab a pallet of multiples of the same item as it was a quick way to inflate your numbers.
Haven't worked anywhere which withheld pay towards attendance but I was surprised once to get a bonus, and not a small one, for having 100% attendance in a year - I think the goal was to incentivise people but then they stopped bothering with it the next year.
It's articles like this that make me glad I'm tied into a 40 hour a week contract, in a job I love. In management, so I sometimes work more than that, but it's rewarding and also means I can take a few hours off here and there when needed. I can't imagine working 50-60 hour weeks or more, especially in work that is mentally dull!
What is fire?
Work 39 hours a week with early morning starts at 6 if needed, I always work my arse off to avoid weekend overtime and the like when we are busy.
Prefer to enjoy not working rather than working just to afford a new car on finance/new brand labeled clothes that most seem to do nowadays.
Prefer to enjoy not working rather than working just to afford a new car on finance/new brand labeled clothes that most seem to do nowadays.