Longevity Burn-In Investigative Paths After 3 Months QD-OLED vs. WOLED, LG vs. Sony, And More

sithlord said:
I went and had a look at some OLED TV & MINI LEDs last week. To my eyes the new MINI LEDs were really good with very little difference between the OLEDs (John Lewis & Currys stock).

My next monitor could be a Mini LED based one with 500+ diming zones. I'd have ocd over burn in if I went OLED for my next monitor.
But if youve not seen the newer MINI LED TVs & Monitors take a look at them in person.
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Mini led creates a lot of latency, th monitors that use them have good picture in hdr but the mini led's add 10-20ms latency, so OLED is much better for gaming than mini led

To compensate for this latency, most mini led monitors disabled the dimming in SDR, so in SDR it acts like a normal LCD panel with all the blooming and poor black levels. Then the dimming activates when HDR is enable d to give better image quality but of course you get the extra up to 20ms latency, so most gamers with mini led will just play latency sensitive games in SDR and that kinda defeats the whole point of the mini led if aren't using it.

Meanwhile I'm here with a QD OLED monitor getting amazing image quality and low latency in all kinds of situations
 
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Grim5 said:
Mini led creates a lot of latency, th monitors that use them have good picture in hdr but the mini led's add 10-20ms latency, so OLED is much better for gaming than mini led

To compensate for this latency, most mini led monitors disabled the dimming in SDR, so in SDR it acts like a normal LCD panel with all the blooming and poor black levels. Then the dimming activates when HDR is enable d to give better image quality but of course you get the extra up to 20ms latency, so most gamers with mini led will just play latency sensitive games in SDR and that kinda defeats the whole point of the mini led if aren't using it.

Meanwhile I'm here with a QD OLED monitor getting amazing image quality and low latency in all kinds of situations
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Ive not seen many mini LED monitors except the Coolermaster GP27U and that has decent response times. https://youtu.be/9TV4vVQqmdw?t=551
 
sithlord said:
Ive not seen many mini LED monitors except the Coolermaster GP27U and that has decent response times. https://youtu.be/9TV4vVQqmdw?t=551
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It shows up as input latency in HDR mode, not g2g response, you're looking at the wrong measurement.

It was quite the complaint a couple years ago on Samsung TV's and since then Samsung have had two local dimming modes, one for video and one for games, so these days on Samsung TVs when you enable HDR and game mode together you still get some dimming from the mini led's but its vastly reduced in order to reduce complaints about the input latency
 
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I bought 55 inch 4k Samsung QLED to play on (I rarely watch tv) simply because they don't suffer burn in. 3 years later couldn't be happier and don't have to babysit the tv.

I was originally going to go for the LG OLED but when I saw the two TV's side by side in the shop the light screen reflection on the LG swung it for me because the Samsungs have anti reflective technology and I don't want to spend all my time with the curtains shut
 
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cuke2u said:
Good and objective, compared to the hysteria on certain forums..
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Considering how many QD OLED monitors have had burn in after 3-6 months of ownership(check the thread, there is about a dozen oc uk users who have burn in on their QD OLED monitor), I'd say it's warranted
 
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cuke2u said:
Quite, would you run your car engine flat out for days on end, without any cyclical maintenance, and expect it to last?
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Every component in my PC is capable of that (except fans which need occasional cleaning). The fact that OLED displays can't do that is the main reason I don't use one as a monitor (but I do have an OLED TV).
 
Whilst every component within a PC may well be capable of running flat out I doubt if you'd want to do this for hours, day in and day out. Unfortunately though no component is bullet proof and failures will take place especially if you constantly stress them, even though failures will take place even when you don't. I've even had enough DOA's of different hardware to know we don't live in perfect world and hard drive failures are quite common especially where they are in a stressed environment such as servers and NAS drives.
Heat is a killer too.This is why we take every precaution to reduce stress as it should be with any OLED monitor or television...
 
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cuke2u said:
Whilst every component within a PC may well be capable of running flat out I doubt if you'd want to do this for hours, day in and day out. Unfortunately though no component is bullet proof and failures will take place especially if you constantly stress them, even though failures will take place even when you don't. I've even had enough DOA's of different hardware to know we don't live in perfect world and hard drive failures are quite common especially where they are in a stressed environment such as servers and NAS drives.
Heat is a killer too.This is why we take every precaution to reduce stress as it should be with any OLED monitor or television...
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And every component comes with warranty that covers all that. OLED burn in is a special case where they try to put the blame on you for using a TV and some monitors for their intended purpose.

However, I can't imagine losing if you go through small claims court but who has time for such a hassle?
 
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Same goes, if a oled monitor is run at full brightness, without taking precautions or allowing the compensation cycles being run, such as what rtings has done, then expect issues...
 
Just replaced my 2017 LG OLED for a Samsung Quantum Dot. Instantly obvious is the blacks but the image is much cleaner and brighter in the main room during the day.

It's been rejected into the bedroom as I seem to have a lot of burn in which was getting annoying, seemed to be from watching YouTube and only getting worse. It's annoying as the TV is perfect, I might leave it on a colour cycle and see if that shifts it.
 
NZXT30 said:
www.tomsguide.com

I didn’t fear burn-in on my OLED gaming monitor — until I got burned

This annoying display defect should truly burn-in hell
www.tomsguide.com www.tomsguide.com

Burn in with any OLED is inevitable but with the Samsung ones you can expect it rather quick within months.

If you're still buying one make sure you get one with proper hassle free warranty and I think only the Dell offers that.
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Even in that article you've linked he says he's been using it for almost a year with Google Chrome open for most of the day, everyday because he uses it for work.
How have you translated that to "rather quick within months"?

With the above article it's obvious he risks burn in from static elements in chrome.
I imagine it's frustrating when it happens but it's not likely to affect many people and it certainly isn't "within months"
 
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